So Texas is going in the Toilet

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  1. Alchemist

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    I wish you could have spotted it before you posted. Or was it your intent to spread misinformation?
     
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    You'd have to crunch a few numbers, but it is probably true that a black man living in an inner-city area is more likely to be shot by a fellow black man from the same neighborhood than the odds of any American dying from Covid-19. But, we're not supposed to talk about that, so mainly I thought the Tweet I reposted was an interesting comparison...and not misinformation.
     
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    So you're wanting to isolate the black population and compare black on black homicide rate to the total Covid-19 death rate of the US. Your agenda is obvious, and it's despicable. In 2017 and 2018 total US homicide rate was under 20,000 per year. Covid-19 has already killed 23,000+ people of color. Crunch those numbers for us.
     
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    You'd have to divided inner-city killings by the inner-city populations only. It's probably higher than the rate of Covid deaths. The Tweet I posted is from a black thought leader. He is the one who made the comparison. Are you calling him despicable for making the comparison? If so, you're a racist. You clearly don't think black-on-black homicide rates are important.
     
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    He didn't share the misinformation here did he? No, that was all you trying to deflect from Texas.

    Covid-19 has killed more back people in 6 month than all homicides in the US yearly. If you want to run the demographics and homicide rates in every single city in the nation to prove yourself wrong go ahead. There is no way in hell you're going to be allowed to cherry pick a handful of the worst cities to manipulate data.

    Even looking at the most extreme city Chicago.
    Black population: 810,000
    Black on Black homicide: 368 (75% of 490) 2019 statistics
    Black on black murder rate in the deadliest city .05% It only goes down from here.

    Do your own homework and post numbers when you have your little epiphany in the future and maybe you can catch these error before you hit post.
     
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    Hindsight is 20/20!

    Too bad YOUR governor hasn't bothered to implement the LESSONS LEARNED the hard way in NY.

    As a result the citizens of TX are about to find out what it is like have an INCOMPETENT governor in a Pandemic.

    Good luck!
     
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    You know Luggs I can't argue with that. Oh don't get me wrong, I don't agree in the slightest but if that conspiracy angle is the approach you are taking I know it's useless to try and argue the point.
     
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    Way too LATE to stop the SPREAD of the virus now!

    Your incompetent governor should have mandated masks to be worn immediately he reopened the economy.

    Now he is trying to put a bandaid on the Grand Canyon.

    Why does EVERYTHING have to be bigger in Texas, even INCOMPETENCE?

    Sad!
     
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    A bit harsh. It's too late to prevent 1000's of deaths but it will prevent 10s of thousands more. But you are right in that it is reactionary rather than progressive leadership.
     
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    But does he have the will to stay the course? It will be three weeks or more before there will be any reduction in new cases and a month before a decline from the increase in deaths occurs. Many will start crying in a week about oppression and Chinese dictators and they will have to be dealt with. Sadly, his big advantage there will be the hospitals getting overloaded. Some ICUs across the state are already at capacity and it's going to get worse. Will that silence the Yahoos?
     
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    What will prevent 10's of thousands of deaths is our improved medical knowledge of how to effectively treat the virus after it infects someone.

    However wearing a mask is meaningless if you are not social distancing and taking all of the other precautions like sanitizing your hands and products that you bring into your home.

    Miami-Dade county in FL has gone into lockdown and I expect to see that happening in AZ and then TX as their hospitals are overwhelmed and they battle to deal with something that could have been PREVENTED by ensuring that EVERYONE followed the accepted Pandemic protocols and precautions while reopening the economy. Worth noting that the states that are following those protocols and procedures are not experiencing the same spike in cases while the reopen their economies.

    The failure to be PROACTIVE costs lives and that is what Abbott needs to be held accountable for when it comes to the elections. We need actual LEADERSHIP that takes RESPONSIBILITY and is held ACCOUNTABLE when they screw up. Anything less is a disservice to We the People IMO.
     
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    But MA has continued to have protests on almost a daily basis with thousands attending. You keep harping on that one day of supposed 60k vs 17k, which you realize are guesstimates, but MA is continuing to have thousands attending. And while the temp may be higher in TX it’s all relative. Meaning that when it’s in the 80s and humid in Boston that is hot as hell for us. I get you need to make excuses for the huge spikes in TX but the reality is you guys reopened too quickly and were too arrogant to wear masks and now you’re paying the price.
     
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    Yes, thank you. And the Covid crude mortality rate right now is at 0.04%, so Dr. Watkins point is valid.
     
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    Sorry but it's not. You are comparing 1 year to 6 months. If, and it's a big if we continue at current rates for another 6 months it's not 0.04 but over 0.1%
     
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    But it's revealing that even Texas gal blames bars and lack of masks fir the resurgence...despite her spin
     
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    Every large metropolitan area has a Democrat Mayor, which is probably why mask-wearing is more accepted and prevalent in the urban areas than in rural areas. Mayors and Governor Abbott have been "recommending" masks for at least two months before Abbott turned that into a "mandate" after the younger people started ignoring Covid precautions and guidelines.

    There's noting "incompetent" with either the Dem Mayors or the Rep Governors as far as virus recommendations. The poor decision making lies with large groups of young citizens.

    It is too late to stop the spread after "events surrounding Memorial Day". That's tens of thousands of young people deciding to jump over the guard rails at the top of Grand Canyon and taking the state into a Covid free fall down the side of the cliff....for a little while.
     
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    You are required to wear them. What part of this do you not understand?
     
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    LOL... The ultimate leftist slam. Karens... Thanks for the demonstration. The day someone like you actually ask what you can do, you let us know.
     
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    So you're saying every person who isn't "younger people" have been wearing masks for past two months? I can tell you, based on my brother who lives in TX, that isn't the case. In fact he has been bragging about how people in TX weren't wearing masks. As if it made people in TX cool for not wearing them. So it hasn't been JUST "younger people". Hence why Abbott had to make it mandatory.
     
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    waa waa waa!!

    i am required to wear a mask to help stop the spread of a deadly virus!!!!

    wo is me!!!! im sooo persecuted!!!!
     
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    I think it is always valuable to demonstrate just how quickly the narratives can go sideways. That doesn't mean these conversations are realistic, but if folks really wanted to connect dots in this way, it isn't hard. It reminds me of what the leftist MSN do every day.
     
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    ~ The cases are up - the death rate continues to fall. Go figure ... :confuse:´:wierdface:
     
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    Yes. Reaction was required after people ignored the standard advice of social distancing, wearing masks and avoiding large groups of people. The "progressive" thing to do would have been to tell people to stay home from the protests and leave any bar which was getting too crowded. Smart people did that. However, what would have been common sense is also unconstitutional. You can't keep people from assembly and protest in America, and that's good thing in general. Probably not the wisest thing to do in the middle of the first serious pandemic in 100 years.

    My Mayor, a progressive leader, tried to lead by example. People do what they want to do regarless.

    June 1st -

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