Republican internal polling signals a Democratic rout

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  1. sec

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    Those right wing extremists have been pretty busy in Chicago with all of the shootings.
     
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    Please let me know when you recognize that people living in Chicago are also Americans and that Chicago is a tiny portion of America.
     
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    I struggle to understand why those right wing extremists are embracing black lives matter when their orange leader called black lives matter a "symbol of hate."
     
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    You seem to struggle seeing the obvious. It's leftist who are running around looting and destroying statues and "occupying" parts of cities.
     
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    All I can say is if you're a Trump supporter hang up on any person that says they are taking a pole. What will sink Biden is his very public corruption as well as the dismal failure of Obamanomics.
     
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    Oh Pleeze.......the left used gun registration records to out gun owners publically, why wouldn't they use fake pollsters to out Trump supporters? It's not rational when a plan is exposed and the folks involved deny.....deny....deny.
     
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    All the polling firms say the same thing.

    Are they all lying?

    You're more optimistic than Trump himself.
     
  9. MrTLegal

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    The irony of accusing Biden of "public corruption" and being a "failure on economics" while defending Trump - who is impeached for his corrupt dealings and is facing an 11.1% unemployment right now - is ****ing delicious.
    Again, why are you publicly voicing any support for Trump if you believe in this conspiracy that the left wing wants to find you and assault you?
     
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    Here's some current polling released yesterday.... More great news for Donald John Trump... broke the 39% approval (going the wrong way... lowest since Jan 2019)

    Also just 33% approval from Independents...

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/313454/trump-job-approval-rating-steady-lower-level.aspx

    His goal of finding some pretext to drop out before November is getting closer every day....
     
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    I find it very hard to imagine he'll drop out.

    His business is in financial difficulties and the Deutsch Bank is waiting for him to become a private citizen again to get his money back.

    Trump knows this and for him, the Presidency is the ultimate lifeline, especially since some of his companies have taken advantage of the bailout despite the Congressional ban.
     
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    You're whistling past the graveyard. Even the polls in the 2016 election were only off by 1.2%.

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    Clinton won the popular vote by 2.1%.
     
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    Propaganda Alert!
     
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    Deutsch Bank doesn't hold any Trump notes anymore. Deutsch Bank simply assumed a part of a portfolio for a while.

    Trump never originated anything with Deutsch Bank in the first place.

    Trump is going to win in spite of all of the media distortions.
     
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    glad you mentioned that because the only poll that got it right that was dead accurate Rasmussen is the poll you liberal says isnt credible

    and because Rasmussen being accurate brought the average to being 1.2 off so if it wasn't for Rasmussen the average would much more inaccurate
     
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    Trump might still pull it out if he reverses course on COVID-19, but a lot of dead people are going to sink him.
     
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    I support school vouchers, medical vouchers, and a strong military. Name one liberal that supports even those three items.
    Total nonsense.

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    Seems as though you don't understand polling.

    Trump is in BIG TROUBLE and his handling of the virus is cooking his goose.

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    But Trump isn't another George H.W. Bush.
     
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    With four months to go, anything is possible. Now the trend over the last month to two months have been all in the Democrats favor. Somehow if Trump is going to win, he needs to find a way to reverse that. He needs to find that way in a hurry before Biden and the Democrats start locking this thing up. Being 9 point down in the the latest RCP averages isn't a good thing when only 10% of the remaining voters are in the undecided, not sure column. Somehow Trump is going to have to find a way to convince a good chunk of Biden supporters to jump his ship and board the Trump train.

    That is something he didn't have to do in 2016. This time four years ago, that pool of undecided's, not sure's was at 22% with Hillary having a 4 point lead. Trump didn't need to convince a single Hillary supporter to change their support. He had a large enough pool to pull from to overcome her lead and win the election. Not so this year. I think the pool of undecided's are being completely ignored and yet that may be the most important numbers on the board.
     
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    How'd Rasmussen do in 2018?

    Interestingly enough, Rasmussen did so bad in 2018 that RCP's final average of the polls, which factored in Rasmussen's poll, was more than a full point worse than 538 who did not use Rasmussen.
     
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    Keep laughing...

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    Like we care what your prediction is?
     
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    The problem is even worse for Trump when you lay it out this way. Trump is down by 9 points and there are only 10 in the unsure column? Trump would need 90% of those voters which is...unlikely...to say the least. I think it is pretty clear that Trump will need to change the minds of at least some of those voters who have said their mind is already decided for Biden/not-trump.

    And given the latest Gallup polling where he stayed roughly flat overall (39 to 38 approval) is hiding the fact that he lost 6 points among Independents and another 3 points among Democrats. He needs to expand his breath of support and he has chosen to double down, again and again, on the voters who already support him.

    The other problem that Trump has is that this year, in particular, his window is smaller than normal. In a normal election, a significant majority of voters will make their vote on election day. This year, with the pandemic, the percentages are flipped and a significant majority are very likely to decide early via absentee or mail-in ballot.
     
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    I have said this many times to a lot of trump supporters, but if you want trump re-elected, then you need to convince him that every single ounce of his energy needs to be devoted towards crushing the virus.
     

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