Why the Whining About the rise in Virus cases now?

Shove your head in the sand if you feel that works for you.

 

The US Navy ship that had several thousand get infected conducted a follow up study. Of those who recovered, only around 60% developed antibodies at all.

Yes, the novelty of this virus and by extension, the relatively lack of known treatments and the total absence of a known vaccine explicitly is the primary reason why this virus should be treated differently.

 

Nope. Just fear mongering...

 

South Korea is not the USA. South Korea is collecting/publishing their data differently than we are. Heck, we've even changed the way that we've been collecting/publishing it during this whole thing (purposely in an attempt to keep "number of infections" as high as possible").

This whole coronahoax is a complete sham.

 

That's a cute conspiracy theory you got there.

It'd be a shame to ask you for proof and watch you flail around with your of ****-tastic mantra responses.

 

130,000 dead Americans is no hoax and maybe you can point out in what way SK collects their data differently...and how it is SO much lower than ours\\

 

And that's exactly what he did.

Trolling is so much fun huh?

 

130,000 people have died. That is no hoax. The hysteria surrounding those deaths IS a hoax, however.

SK does not count "potential cases" as "verified cases" as we are currently doing so that the MSM can keep running fear mongering stories about "spikes" and "increases" and etc... SK also doesn't count "death with covid" as "death BY covid"...

# of infections was going down since May already, but increased testing kept those numbers up and then in June was when "potential cases" started being counted as "verified cases" in order to boost the numbers to new highs... Meanwhile, deaths have plummeted downward since May (even with the increased testing and re-defining of what a "verified case" is, and even with counting "death with covid" as "death BY covid")... Kinda hard to have deaths when hardly anyone is actually infected with the damn virus, eh??

THAT sort of BS is what is the hoax...

 

I agree that our reporting standards have not been good enough.

Plus, testing strategies vary widely from state to state, making it difficult to know exactly what data from testing actually means.

These are aspects that the federal government should have been involved in.

In fact, they WERE!! The plan for opening America that was created by this administration is available on whitehouse.gov.

BUT:
- Trump strongly advocates directions that vary and would lead to substantially different testing plans.

- we do not have NEARLY enough tests to implement the plan on whitehouse.gov. Pluse there aren't enough tests to even accomplish what states want to do in any consistent way.

Beyond that, Trump has dumped the federal effort to work on test availability.

Death is not the only long term and serious affect of COVID19. Plus, the spread of COVID19 is caused by cases, not by deaths.

So, one can't look at death data and case data in the same way.

We would have a better approach as well as more success if we had some level of federal contribution to defending America against this pandemic.

Of course, that's pretty easy to say when we're the worst in the world at this.

 

I still don't understand why you keep calling this a "pandemic"... Are you just doing so because some governmental agency is doing so? Is it because that's what the MSM calls it?

I do not consider a small fraction of a percent of the world being infected to be a "pandemic"... I don't even consider that to be a "situation"... I consider that to be statistically insignificant...

 

Only in your mind.

 

COVID19 is prevalent over a whole country or the world.

I'd prefer just to call it what it is. I'd suggest pandemic is more accurate than calling it a Democratic plot against the president.

Also, analysis of COVID data typically is done at uniersities. And, Florida will not release its data for analysis. Instead, state government reports what it wants. There is ample reason to believe they are publishing undercounts.

Plus, their death rate is not going down according to what the state reports.

 

I don't see it as insignificant that there is a NEW cause of deaths of Americans that has killed 128,000 Americans over the last 5 months.

And, the idea of ignoring that is not just immoral (though it certainly is) - it is a failure to defend the USA.

Let's remember that Amerians are whining about wearing a mask and not going to bars!

Seriously - how little could POSSIBLY be asked?

 

Your opinion is utterly unconvincing in the face of the conclusions from every relevant agency, every member of the journalism field, and the ****ing dictionary.

 

Why do you believe that the CDC, the WHO, and every medical organization on the planet exists only in his head?

 

His consistency suggests intent.

He's constantly wrong on purpose.

 

Let me tell you a story I heard today from an old friend of mine I had not seen in awhile. She does Facebook and I do not. This story is "anecdotal", but it might be true.

2 people waited in line for a number of hours for the nasal swab test. Whether online or in person they had filled out paper work with their name and address and other info.

They eventually tired of waiting in line and left, having never been tested.

About a week later they get their test results in the mail, and it says they are positive.

If this is true, it is painfully obvious how grossly inaccurate the data being presented is.

 

The monsters they create, the crises, the monsters and demons they create exist in his head, and yours and the heads of all those easily frightened.

To borrow from FDR, men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own mind.

He knew that in the last century. You and others have yet to understand it. Don't worry, life goes on.

 

Not for 130,000 Americans and 500,000 humans worldwide.

 

Oh dear, cry me a river counselor.

 

The Mainstream Marxist Mediocres are emotionally whining and gnashing teeth and ginning up fear about Texas and other states. And it's true that ICU's in Texas are at 90% capacity. But of that 90% ICU capacity now in use in Texas, only 15-20% is being used to treat COVID-19.

That's because while all the hospitals back in March allocated all ICU capacity to COVID-19 only, now the incidence of clinical COVID-19 cases is low enough that the hospitals are treating everything again, back to regular business. All of that regular and normal ICU patient care plus the low number of COVID-19 patients is using up 90% of available capacity in Texas.

I guess that's why FEMA and the US ARMY Corps of Engineers has not been tasked to rush into Texas and erect temporary ICU capacity -- because there is no emergency at all -- as there was back in March in NY or anything even close to that. Texas is doing just fine.

Stanford doctor says majority of hospitalizations in Texas 'have nothing to do with COVID-19'

“When I looked at every single hospital area in Texas today, 15-20% of people in the hospital as inpatients are COVID-positive patients. That means 80-85% have nothing to do with COVID-19. And the same thing goes with some of these other states."

"When we see this focus on more cases, it doesn't really matter how many cases ⁠— it only matters who gets the cases. Because we know the infection-fatality rate for people under 70 is 0.04% on the latest analysis ⁠— that's less than or equal to seasonal flu," he said.

"The cases themselves should not be and were never the focus. It's only the tragic consequences of the cases. So, when we look at the cases in every state, the overwhelming majority are younger, healthier people," Atlas said.

"We realize we have to wait to have the story play out here. But right now, the cases have been going up for three weeks — we have no increase, in fact, we have a decrease in death rates," Atlas said. "So, it doesn't matter if you get the illness if you're going to fully recover and be fine from it, and that is what people must understand. For younger, healthier people, there's not a high risk from this disease at all."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ons-in-texas-have-nothing-to-do-with-covid-19

MSM is lying through their teeth to the American people.

 

They have been caught fudging the data.
No way to know exactly how many really died of the Wuhan Virus.

 

I've voted for Ron Paul several times. He is one of my favorite Texans.

Here are his thoughts on what you talk about: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/ron-paul/is-the-texas-covid-spike-fake-news/

 

A more accurate description might be the Fort Detrick Virus.

Data is likely not the only thing they've been fudging.

 

A) That bit of "news" has been reported multiple times over by several different MSM organizations, so to claim that they are lying is hot garbage.

B) An ICU bed which is taken is still taken whether it is taken by a covid-19 patient or a gun shot patient. But the problem that Texas, Arizona, Florida, etc. are facing is the fact that Covid-19 is very much a problem for those who are healthy. What do you suppose happens to a person that is already using an ICU or hospital bed when they catch Covid-19?