Why the Whining About the rise in Virus cases now?

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Did you know that Covid-19 has killed more Americans in Florida and Texas, after a singular month, than those States lost from 20 years of Hurricanes?
     
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    I suppose it is possible that the Wuhan Virus was created in a bio-weapons lab, but why would anyone create a "bio-weapon" that could be very effectively treated with a common cheap malaria drug?

    "The new feature engineered into the Wuhan coronavirus has, “the potential to cleave specifically viral envelope glycoproteins, thereby enhancing viral fusion with host cell membranes,” conclude study authors.

    This feature results in, “higher pathogenicity, pronounced neural symptoms and neurotropism in infected chickens,” according to the paper. That means, essentially, it kills more easily and causes nervous system damage while infecting nerve cells. Note that many of the human victims in China appear to suffer seizures and a total, almost instantaneous nervous system shutdown, literally collapsing in seconds."
    BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS NEWS, CONFIRMED: CoVid-19 coronavirus found to contain unique “gain-of-function” property “for efficient spreading in the human population” … exact quote from science paper just published in Antiviral Research, By Mike Adams, 02/19/2020.
    https://biologicalweapons.news/2020...for-efficient-spreading-human-population.html

    If this was not an election year the death toll from the Wuhan Virus would have been 90% lower, and the cost of an HCQ pill might have shot up to as high as 60 cents.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    OMG!

    Still, at 130,000 dead, we are about at the number of people who die from taking prescription drugs as directed. The horror!

    And we are fairly close to the number of people killed on American highways every year, but nowhere close to the numbers killed in foreign lands in the name of our Global War Of Terror.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why? Because weird humans do weird things? Because men in power ought to be mistrusted?

    If I were King For A Day, I would close down all those labs. Devious minds do devious things.
     
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    Did you think taking prescribed medications or driving on the highway or participating in a war is contagious?
     
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    We've come a long way since the influenza ward at Walter Reed in 1918.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Is there anybody that pays you to ask intelligent questions?
     
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    Bad news! But, the question becomes one of how to use that anecdote. As you point out, it is an anecdote. But, it's also undoubtedly true that there are mistakes being made.

    I too have questions about testing. But, they have more to do with the fact that there are all sorts of differences in how and who gets tested. And, many states (like mine) do not have NEARLY enough tests to test everyone who should get tested.

    So, there are issues even if every test gets handled perfectly.

    I doubt that this is making such a large difference that our basic understanding of what is happening is being thrown off.

    The reason I doubt it is that we are not dramatically changing the methods we're using. So, when the count goes up, it is unlikely to be because of some change in how we measure. It will be far more likely that it comes from a real change in the number of cases.

    That's the benefit of watching multi-day averages and other data related to trends.
     
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    102 years in fact.
     
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    Your effort to downplay the threat of the virus by comparing the deaths after three months against non-infectious and unrelated causes of death does nothing to reduce the very real threat of this virus.
     
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    Will

    The only point I disagree on is that bad data (and ultimately that is the subject at hand) causes those making decisions to make bad decisions.

    An over simplification perhaps, but right to the point--Garbage In will deliver Garbage Out.

    If public policy is being formed based upon test results, and it is all over the country, then if the test results data is horribly inaccurate, the resulting public policy decisions will be equally misinformed and poor.
     
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    I don't believe that is a legitimate response to there being a new threat that has taken 130,000 lives in 5 months.

    And, that is especially true when so much of America is failing at getting this under control.

    Random idea: How about applying whatever it is that New York, New Jersey, Massachusettes, Connecticut and others are doing to be successful to those states that are FAILING?

    Another one: How about doing whatever it was that Europe did to be so stupendously better than the USA?

    We have models of what works and what doesn't.

    Instead of being a country full of whiney children about wearing a freaking mask, how about we just opt for the defense of America?

    Side question: Why wasn't the Rushmore speech all about the fact that those presidents brought us together behind serious issues, requiring some amount of sacrifice on the part of all? It's really startling to me that in the face of COVID, that speech was about polarizing America even further!!
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You and I both and everybody in this country has been deceived.

    Some of us have become aware that we were deceived, and I'm afraid that some will never understand they've been tricked.

    The CARES act began in January 2019, a year before the virus began according to officialdom. In 2017 Fauci declared strongly that "this administration will experience an epidemic". Those 2 facts alone show that certain government officials had prior knowledge of what was to come.

    Plandemic.
     
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    0.04% is statistically insignificant...
     
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    Dividing by the total population is not some sort of sole determination of seriousness. We work on a lot of problems that don't impact everyone.
     
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    Sigh ...
     
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    Half a million dead world wide and 130,000 dead in this country...and your response is "cry me a river"?

    Go away
     
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    It's not. Very little that you post is true
     
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    I'm just looking out for your best interests.
     
  20. Dayton3

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    Really? What did Washington, Jefferson, and Theodore Roosevelt bring Americans together on serious issues requires some amount of sacrifice?
     
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    I am genuinely curious if you recognize that your icon is incredibly similar to the Nazi symbol?
     
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    Wow!

    I really don't know what to say. And, I usualy say way too much!

    I'm sure there are many who don't know much about TR, but Washington and Jefferson lived at a time when a significant number of those living in the colonies weren't interested in going to war with England and setting up a central government. And had they lost, England could have prosecuted them as traitors to the king. They risked all they had, including their lives and the wellbeing of their families.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    The Nazis never used a GOP elephant. Correct me if I'm wrong
     
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    Yes. They took great personal risks but how did they bring people together and encourage sacrifice?
     
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    Because Dems don't want Biden to debate Trump. They figure the hysteria can be used as an excuse that he stays home in his basement.
     

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