"Televangelists, megachurches tied to Trump approved for millions in pandemic aid"

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  1. TurnerAshby

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    Its class affiliation not party affiliation that's the issue. The seemingly already rich groups got first dibs at help from both sides of the isle
     
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    archives Well-Known Member

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    Like third response claiming the same, well, if you are "sure," then show us who and where, and I if televangelism is a business, why does it also get religious breaks from the Gov't
     
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    PPP was also for non-profits. The point was to keep employees on payrolls
     
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    So your whole argument is based on speculation? Businesses of all types got PPP loans. Some support Trump....some support Biden. Yes, it is purely coincidental. These businesses have employees which means they are allowed to apply for the loans.

    If you do not think that businesses tied to Pelosi, Schummer, or Schiff did not receive any loans, then you are naive.

    You do not think the employees that worked and were laid off by these organizations were not hurt?????? The loans were meant for ALL business with employees that suddenly found themselves without a paycheck. Your lack of empathy for your fellow man, just because you do not like their religion or politics is very telling.
     
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    The checks, no, the directions, yes, either Trump or someone in the White House, and how is documentation that show televangelists who supported Trump getting money over those that the funds were suppose to aid "ridiculous?"
     
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    So the TV televangelist, and lets keep in mind who and what televangelist are, take preference over the local small business?
     
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    The only point here is that religious organisations should not get public money, separation of church and state.
     
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    i know what they are....and just because you don't like the non-profit personally doesn't mean they weren't entitled to apply for the loans and get it.

    They applied and were in line like everyone else that applied. I have seen no evidence nor have you produced any that they got "preference" over anyone else.
     
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    Here you go....straight from the Government:

    https://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/SBA Faith-Based FAQ Final.pdf

    Here is an Muslim Advocacy site instructing the Muslim community about the loans:

    https://muslimadvocates.org/stimulus-bill-funding/
     
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    For this to have meaning, you have to show favoritism. Are you suggesting that dem business owners/contributors were denied "forgivable loans"
     
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    You just came back with the same exchange you attempted above

    Not speculation, it is documented, the data comes from the Gov't, and without offering any proof, you repeated the same "whataboutism"

    And are these TV televangelists small businesses? Most would quesiton if they are actually a business at all, not about empathy, but rather equity, not rewarding others for political favors
     
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    There is no such thing as "separation of church and State". The Government just can not support any one religion over another. As long as all religions had the same opportunity and consideration for the loan, there is no conflict.
     
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    Another one with undocumented "whataboutisms"

    Show us where businesses that supported a Democrat got loans
     
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    I am still waiting on your to provide evidence to support your claim that there was some direction from the President or WH to give these non-profits loans over anyone else...if you don't have any....then this is a dead issue and just another hoax

    It is speculation that happened.

    These non-profits were entitled to apply for and get the loans under the law.
     
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    You cant possibly be serious. Planned parenthood got 80 million dollars. You think those people are Trump supporters? Please.
     
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    Read this s l o w l y...

    All kinds of businesses got money.
     
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    Please stop spouting nonsense and fake news.
     
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    Sigh....sorry your google is broken:

    Company tied to Pelosi's husband received PPP loans:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...bfe428-bfbd-11ea-8908-68a2b9eae9e0_story.html

    Here is a list of companies tied to lawmakers that received PPP loans....there appears to be a fairly equal amount of Democrats and Republicans.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ht-clubs-resort-among-disclosures/5388999002/
     
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    There certainly should be. I wouldn't want my taxes going to support any religion, nor would most people.
     
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    Hell, the day after the Dem supported Kennedy Center received $25 million they fired 600 employees.

    Kennedy Center gets $25 million but double-crosses the Orchestra

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    M. Dowling
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    The Kennedy Center received about $25 million from the stimulus. Despite saying they had 4,000 employees to support, they will stop paying the National Symphony Orchestra in April.
     
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    Can a religous group go get a loan from a bank that is federally insuranced?
     
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    If I made a thread about it, I would have to back it up or admit that its a nonissue. You put yourself in that position. Not me.
     
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    Though I am not a religious person (maybe spiritual, but not religious) I can see where many people benefit from their religious beliefs. I have no problem with Government supporting religion as long as they do not favor one religion over another....as the Constitution states.
     
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    Something you have repeatedly failed to demonstrate as does your article. You have presented zero evidence that any one was given preferential treatment over anyone else.
     
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