Question about white race based organizations

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BLM is basically a terrorist organization with no concern for lives- any lives at all; regardless of color. The name is a con job, like a nice name for an evil institution to trade on the respectability or sympathy that it might draw. When you promote violence and riots- it's obvious, at least to thinking minds, that you have no respect for life at all. Black lives all over are being sacrificed to the promotions of hate right now- including as large number of black children- Just cannon fodder to the BLM. I don't just turn my back to such people, I recommend they be labeled what they are and treated accordingly.

    BLM IS pretending to be what is it not, and those who buy into it are the ones being used. You seem to be a candidate for that.
     
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    Yes this is the right place for opinions...including yours concerning BLM.
    What is interesting to me is that if you replace all the references to "BLM" in your paragraph above with "TAW" (Trump And his Worshipers),
    you will see that BLM, and myself, feel the same way toward TAW...and you
     
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    The local police offered to meet with the local BLM and have a face-to-face discussion with them like rational, respectful adults. This was BLM's response-

    Screen Shot 2020-06-07 at 8.41.28 AM.png

    That says it all.
     
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    Lol...Sounds exactly like something Trump would tweet.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you do. The BLM people object to anything and anybody that stands in the way of destroying the nation; we hardly expect them to develop any morals because we point out they have none. They see no reason to have values, except self-serving ones.

    When the doors to success are wide open and you continue throwing rocks and claiming victimhood- the doors should slam shut. It's a challenge to root out the trash and keep the treasure in our black population, but that is what the trash is making necessary. How your life matters- what your life is worth- is up to the individual. If you choose to make yourself worthless or less, that is your right- until you try to blame what you do on someone else. Then, things change, and consequences should fall on you.
     
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    But Trump didn't tweet it- The BLM people did. If they make the rules of their game violence- so be it. They're thugs, nothing of value to be lost. Their choice.
     
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    America was founded on the twin pillars of race and religion.
     
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    America was founded on the twin pillars of race and religion.
     
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    Whites have the same culture within a culture dynamic - like those who obsess over blacks, deny a white race exists, and claim race is a social construct. Double minded!
     
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    Trump is the most divisive figure for the advancement of whites since the fall of Hitler. Nobody respects the white people any more and our ethical standards (on average) have become backward.
     
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    I agree and V.P Mike Pence did draw the ire of BLM by advocating that all lives matter. The blacks aren't the only ones who have been screwed over by the LEO community. So with large corporations giving millions upon millions to further the cause of black racism, it is necessary to find someone that will balance out the disparity. The challenge is, balancing things out does not mean adding fuel to the fire by giving those radical blacks an easy target (i.e. KKK, nazis, alt right, etc.) If you are supportive of those organizations, I am not taking sides. It's just that the history and reputation of those groups will not be conducive to winning over hearts and minds - unless your leaders want a civil war in America. And then you will appeal to the most radical whites AND have to put up or shut up.
     
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    Then I shall repeat the documentation of the difference between the black and white cultures, and you can explain how they are the "Same":

    FBI Uniform Crime Reports, table 43A below, 2018 statistics.

    Note that the black population is 13% of the total population of America.

    What share of our crime are they responsible for?


    Blacks commit 27.4% of all crimes.
    53.3% of all murders.

    Blacks commit more than half the total murders, more than white and all non-blacks combined.

    13% of the population is committing more murders than the other 87%.

    They commit more than half the total robbery, more than white and all non-blacks combined.

    A grossly disproportionate share of crime in America, especially violent crime, is committed by blacks.

    IF we removed that 13% of our population- our national overall crime rate would fall by 27.4%

    IF we removed that 13% of our population- our national murder rate would fall by 53.3%.

    IF you think cops are unfairly focused on blacks- you are wrong.
    It is the disproportionate level of criminals among blacks that brings them a higher level of scrutiny, and that fact also creates an increased need for caution and control when an arrest is necessary- because statistics prove a cop is dealing with a situation at least twice as likely to become violent.

    This IS NOT a condition created by police- it is a condition created in the black culture. America has been an extremely tolerant and sympathetic society, and has been trying to improve that for over 60 years, with a vast amount of concessions and protections from the outside. That has helped some- but has more often enabled many to think they are specially entitled to be irresponsible and criminal. Thug culture continues to be cultivated in many black families and communities.

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    Has this changed over time? NO.
    Below is: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
    Note that on these charts, #17 shows the race of the victims, #18 shows the race of offenders, as a rate per 100,000 population.
    Blacks have been murdering at a much higher rate, and mostly murdering other blacks- for decades.

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    NOW- Tell us again about how we are the same. Tell us why we should ignore these facts, this consistent disproportionate black violence, and burn down cities and destroy our police forces because a career criminal winds up being killed unjustly in the process of arrest.

    I apologize to the the respectable people among our black population for bringing these painful facts to the table here- I am totally aware that a substantial number of black Americans are good people and good citizens. They have my respect- and also my request that they speak out and address this problem within the black community. They suffer some of the stigma that the criminal aspect among them create, and I would hope they act to distance themselves from and openly condemn the irresponsible and criminals among them.
     
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    Which completely explains why brown people from around the world are fleeing their ethno-states to get to white countries. Perhaps whites like you should move to a brown ethno-state so you can experience their superior ethical standards, best of luck with that.
     
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    I certainly do not support and have never supported the KKK or any such groups. I support the idea that we are all equal citizens- and that all of us should accept that as an obligation to build a better nation, not as an entitlement to things. I disagree with the idea that society or government makes people what they are, I believe that the people make society and government what they are. We the people- all of us- are the bricks, the building blocks of the nation. The relationships between us are the mortar that holds us together. Both the bricks and the mortar need to be of as high a quality as possible- because we will always be unable to build anything better than we are willing to be. This to me is an individual obligation. Everybody owes this to their country- as well as to themselves and their families. It is also the only aspect of our lives over which we have total control- and should be totally accountable for. If we come together in that objective, it's not only possible, it's easy.

    Every time somebody blames their unhappiness with life on somebody else and demands society fix them, I see not a brick, but a block of mud that weakens the house of America. Every unfair law, unfair social or PC construct, does the same thing. No question- Good people can build a good nation where everybody can thrive. All we need is more good people- a lot more. More bricks and good mortar- less mud and excuses and justifications for entitlement, blame, hate, hostility and belligerence.
     
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    Didn't read whole thread. There are no material groups advocating for rights based on white skin color alone that I can find (that aren't actually government run honey traps, have seen one of those in my area lately recruiting very dumb young white kids and then prosecuting them after months of entrapment leads to workable cases). The likely reasons that are many and in no particular order.

    1. Extremely diverse origins and groups are "white" demographically with little commonality. This is different from groups such as American blacks descended from the African slave trade. "White" ethnicities originate from every place from Mexico to Norway to Egypt, making any groups based on "whiteness" alone a stretch. 2. If talking about Euro white groups alone, then LW circularity comes immediately into play ala "All white groups are supremacy groups because all groups based on white skin are inherently supremacist." Not a club one most people would want on their bumper sticker given that level of propaganda. 3. There are -plenty- of white ethnic support groups based on -nationalities- of origin and religion that are overwhelming historically white. Hibernian groups, lodges for example.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Order_of_Hibernians

    4. Despite the growing pains of the hereto untried Constitutional Republic in a literal gnat's toenail of history, our government and institutions are designed to be colorblind. That this has become more and more successfully implemented over the last decades enrages the LW collectivists who parasitically exist on stealing from the productive. Hence the immense resistance to the colorblind society we are approaching if the LW doesn't get its way towards continued, self-enriching divisiveness.
     
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    Did you think about that BEFORE hitting post reply? Brown people and blacks are the greater beneficiaries. Whites are losing their collective asses.
     
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    That is wholly wrong. You should familiarize yourself with American history. Try reading this. Read the the real words the man wrote:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/60/393
     
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    Well said.
    The descendants of American slaves for example- have relatives in their nation of origin, the descendants of the brothers and sisters of those who were taken as slaves, but escaped capture. If we compare the conditions of these families divided by the slave traders, there are some frightening facts. The source of most slaves was a region that today is mostly known as Angola. In Angola today-
    Illiteracy is 58%.
    only 27% of children entering the first grade will reach the fourth.
    About 60% of the nation has access to potable water.
    The average income is equivalent to $259 a month.
    It takes 572 Angolan dollars to make $1 USD.
    Tomatoes are $16 USD per Kilo.
    The average lifespan is 60.
    Slavery was in Angola before it was in the USA, and continued until the early 1950's when it was replace by a thing called "forced labor", which continued into the 1960's.
    A civil war ended in the 1990's, after lasting 30 years and killing well over a half million.

    While we have a sort of condensed concept of the history of slavery- a little investigation reveals some interesting contrasts to that concept.
    The fact is that the first slavers in this area were- black Africans. For a thousand years before Europeans arrived in Africa, slaves were commonly sold and taken by caravans north across the Sahara.
    And- European slave traders did not capture slaves for the new world; they bought them from black African slavers.
    African Blacks sold their own kind into slavery; capturing them from other tribes.


    Seems that the true origin and responsibility for the slavery of the ancestors of African Americans- lies with Black Africans in Africa.
    I wonder how many of those demanding things like reparations for slavery of their ancestors here would prefer to be descendants of the people in Angola that escaped capture- which would today make them citizens of Angola- and most likely, wanting to immigrate to America now.
     
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    Sorry, your nonresponsive "that is wholly wrong," backed only by a link... that I am not going to bother clicking on... until YOU post a fully-formed adult response to my prior crystal clear complete response... in your own words... doesn't cut it. Do better. College awaits, maybe.
     
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    Unlike those who make a blanket condemnation of the KKK, I remain neutral. At one time 1 in 8 Americans had a Klan robe in their closet. There were things that had to be good to attract that many people. Of course, after the name, logo, etc. fell into the public domain, any jackass with a few dollars could incorporate a variation of the name KKK (i.e. Knights of, Invisible Empire, True Knights, etc., etc. ad infinitum) and proclaim just about anything. IF they had a well thought out plan (which won't happen) I'd listen - maybe not support, but listen to what they had to say. I think their reputation precludes any real chance they have of leading the effort. That's not to say they don't have the capacity to offer a solution that we can begin to work with.
     
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    sounds like you read that line straight out of the BLM propaganda pamphlet.
     
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    Utterly ridiculous.

    Citation needed.
     
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    I'm amazed and shocked that NO ONE has mentioned that any organization of whites that advocates for the "advancement, preservation, and protection of whites" would be a ***** supremacist organization like Proud Boys.
     
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    Right. It takes a man and true patriot like Trump to shake hands with the enemy.
     

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