What's Up With Australia

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  1. FatBack

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    Are you not aware that's what they are doing?
     
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    How would we do that here? Our president does not have that constitutional authority.
     
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    Sounds a lot like China
     
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    I honestly don't have the slightest idea what this post or your last post have to do wiht this thread. I suspect it has an awful lot to do with the profoundly disturbed pathologies of some parts of American society, in particular conservative ones.
     
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    Only if you have no idea what is actually going on or you are trying to overlay your own prejudices onto the situation.

    People here are going to work, there are cars on the roads, shops are open, people are out exercising, you can even get a haircut. A grand total of 9 tower blocks are locked down tight, and that will be for a limited time. If that is 'like China' to you then I really can't help you.
     
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    Wow! Nice collection of 5$ words. Care to answer my question?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for the background. It had been a couple months since I read anything about Australia.
     
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    That is because there was nothing to hear. Not so much now. Australia is still a spectacular success story in relative terms - only 106 dead out of 25 million people - but in this instance we have failed by our own standards.

    I'll try to keep the thread updated.
     
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    Ask a relevant question and I'll happily answer it.
     
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    No one is surprised.
     
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    There's your answer. We do it right.
     
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    Lock-in has happened in many countries, actually. It's essential in this instance because those tower blocks have many shared public spaces like laundry rooms etc, and no outside space - no balconies. Also very small apartments, often with larger families. Add in poor adherence to protocols from the residents (due to language barriers, disbelief, complacency, etc), and you have a potentially explosive situation. This is absolutely necessary.
     
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    I already did. Oz can seal their borders but if we did the same, some Ozzies, right here at PF would call the USA "xenophobic and racist" Why is that?
     
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    I wouldn't. I'd say it's the smartest thing you've done since getting rid of Obama.
     
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    Mr. Trump tried t do just that and was called *drum roll, please.....*
    "Xenophobic and wayciss"!!!
     
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    Ask them. I don't answer for the opinions of other Australians. Not relevant to me.
     
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    165 new cases today. That is up from 118 yesterday but down from 191 the day before. Not a great number.

    The total cases in the 9 tower blocks is now at 111. No word yet on the lockdown there.
     
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    Melbourne is London, which is New York, which is Vancouver, which is Paris, which is Berlin. Big cities are all part of the Greater Snowflake Metropolitan Area.
     
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    Yet not as big a city as Sydney, or Bangkok, or Taipei.

    It's about far more than just population and density. It's migrant (not all migrant groups, it must be said - Chinese and other Asian groups are not part of the problem in Victoria) populations who can be dismissive of polite Govt requests, and even laws. Plus the "I must go to a cafe/pub/gig/restaurant or I'll implode" set. Not to mention, Victoria seems to be the motherlode of Covidiots, given the insane number who think it's a conspiracy.
     
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    That's not including the results from comprehensive tower block testing yesterday. The majority of results to be announced at 4pm local time.
     
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    Yes, and look how that played out.

    Don't worry, the idiots aren't all on your side of the sea. We have plenty of them here, griping that because many of the people locked up in those tower blocks are brown skinned, the lock up was driven by racism. If not racism, then economism. Because they're public housing tenants, apparently Govt wants to mess with them, just 'cause. You know .. because that's what Govts do - go looking for poor brown people to torment for the LOLs. Meantime, the Govt is actually doing exactly what they need to do to keep these same people alive and well.

    We're talking about inconceivably stupid people, let's not forget.
     
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    For those focussed on the towers, eight of the nine towers are moving to the same rules as the rest of Melbourne (outlined in a previous post). One tower has the bulk of the cases and will remain in hard lockdown/quarantine for a longer period of time - I think another nine days or so.

    In total 159 cases have been detected in the towers thus far.

    Yesterday 21,000 tests were done in Victoria (mostly Melbourne). There are currently 40 people in hospital and nine in intensive care.
     
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    I disagree. Most Americans would resist being locked down to the severe extent that the 3000 people locked in the Towers in Australia are confined. It doesn't matter if it's "only two weeks". These people have effectively been imprisoned by their government for the crime of potentially being ill. It's a rather frightening authoritarian approach.
     
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    The whole 3000 were only locked down for 6 days, not 2 weeks. Only a few hundred will be locked down for 2 weeks. The reason for confining them was to stop them spreading the infection further, not because they might be ill. Given that the people most at risk are others in the towers the government response has stopped people from getting ill.

    Personally I would have handled it slightly differently, but it was the right call.
     
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    The right call for Australia, perhaps. It would be the wrong call in America, given our Constitutional freedoms.

    A few months ago, I was thinking that your restrictions were fairly severe relative to the rest of the free world. Without completely shutting down the borders until there were zero cases in the world, or until an effective vaccine is produced, it seemed to me that your country is simply delaying the inevitable.

    I am reading that Australia has now completely shut the borders. That is far easier for you to do, being completely surrounded by water. Still, if no effective vaccine or treatment is found, I'm not sure this is simply another delay of an outbreak later, but I lean more on the policy side of keeping the economy running as long as there is hospital capacity to treat the ill.
     

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