Biden says police have "BECOME THE ENEMY" and calls for CUTTING police funding: "Yes, absolutely!"

It's not just the cop vote that he blew into the ocean. The suburban moms are out, basically anyone who doesn't like roving mobs and vigilantes is out. Next Trump can get him to admit he’s also a puppet of China.

 

Joe is the kind of guy who'll sit on his TV and watch the couch.

 

The trump campaign is getting real desperate.

 

I wouldn't call this desperate, I would call it a wedge issue(which is what it is.) Is it a little bit of cherry picking? Yeah, but the crux of the message was supporting defunding/shifting funds, which is a legislative issue(normally at the local/state level, but that usurpation has gone unnoticed in the woke culture as well.)

I think instead of shifting funds from one department to the other, you could try to fund MORE social departments as well as the law enforcement community. And the best way we can do this is to destroy the military-industrial complex's hold on America. Liberals were once on the right side of history(to use their inappropriate phrase, I disagree with it as a paradoxical linguistic term but whatever).
But now to resist Trump, liberals are now on the side of the military-industrial complex.

Trump's the first President in decades to distinguish between supporting the military and supporting those fat cows. We need an able defense, we don't need to go to war everywhere to assure that Boeing has a good stock.

It's this pro-US position and pro-peace position that drives Romney nuts, he can't profit from a government for and by the people.

 

How is it that the Trump campaign is desperate by pointing out that Biden anti cop? That's a bonafide central issue. When we see what NYC, Atlanta and Chicago are doing by shifting funds away form police departments and the spike in crime it's makes the issue a hot button. On it's face far left liberals think it sounds good but it's an issue that Biden and the Democrats will lose voters if they push. I wholeheartedly hope they keep pushing it.

 

The majority of people want three things more than everything else. They want a decent living, security and safety. Right now the left offers chaos, riots, looting, burning, violence, crime and mayhem. Yay them. Trump 2020, guaranteed.

 

He's wrong. The press has become the enemy.

 

The desperation comes from warping Biden's quote just to fit this contrived narrative.

 

The Ludicrous MISCHARACTERIZATION of Biden's Statement in the OP "Article" is Beyond Laughable.

This thread belongs in the Humor and Satire Section.

Here is Biden's Actual Statement (in Context):

"Surplus military equipment for law enforcement? They don't need that," Biden continued. "The last thing you need is an up-armored Humvee coming into the neighborhood, it is like the military invading, they don't know anybody, they become the enemy. They're supposed to be protecting these people."

The Link (cited in the OP) is an Utterly Absurd Twisting of Biden"s Words.

^And Everybody KNOWS that.

"become the enemy"?

 

I listened to the video and he said that he is open to "redirect funding" from police to other programs which is the opposite action that needs to happen in high crime rate areas. The majority of people want police reform but not that kind. It's fair game.

 

You are ignoring the part that you don't want to hear. He said that he is willing to "redirect funding" and that is the hear of the issue. It is what Chicago, LA, NYC and several other cities are doing. It has already caused an increase of violent crimes in some cities. It's a fair political issue.

 

So what?

Trump's "base" might be good for the same 46% that he got in 2016.

46% won't get it done in 2020.

That said, Trump is increasingly desperate and he needs to be exploiting any "wedge" issue that he can.

And, one of Trump's Latest Fixations is to Foment (among his base) Mock Outrage over "Defunding Police".

In the end, regardless, Biden WILL WIN

 

Look at you with the prediction thingie. That's cute. It's wrong but that is what makes it so cute. It isn't "mock outrage" as demonstrated by cities like NYC.

City Council members blame NYPD cuts for rise in shootings

Twenty-seven shootings occurred over the July 4 weekend in New York City, which injured 36 individuals and killed four. This follows an extremely volatile June, in which the city saw its number of shootings double, compared to the same time period last year.

City Council Members Robert Holden and Joe Borelli and the city’s largest police union say that New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and the Council’s liberal majority have created the conditions responsible. Holden specifically cited the recent $1 billion budget cut for the New York City Police Department. Borelli, from Staten Island, is one of three Republicans on the Council while Holden is a relatively conservative Democrat from Queens who won election on the Republican Party line.

https://www.cityandstateny.com/arti...l-members-blame-nypd-cuts-rise-shootings.html.

 

Redirect funding that is currently going towards the purchase of surplus military equipment.

 

That wasn't the question and wasn't what he said. The guy that was asking the question didn't specify that he was asking about military surplus. He was redirecting Biden form his rant about military surplus.

Question:
Can we agree that we can redirect some of the funding?

Answer:
Yes, absolutely.

 

Biden is the best the dems could come up with? This has to be the defn' of utter insanity (or greed, for the dems leaders)

 

But it immediately came after Biden was specifically talking about the funding for military surplus equipment. It would make logical sense for anyone, including Biden, to conclude that "redirect some of the funding" was built off the last thing he had just said (i.e. the funding for military surplus equipment).

 

He might have thought that the guy was asking about military equipment. He also might not have. Does the other side have to give Biden the benefit of the doubt? Would the other side give Trump the benefit of the doubt?

 

A VP who served for 8 years and has an extensive track record of public service conducted with honor and respected and liked by nearly every demographic both domestically and internationally?

Sure. Seems like a solid choice.

 

Yeah? And, So What?

Localities SHOULD Redirect "some" Police Funding.

"some" being the operative word.

 

No, I don't think the other side would give the benefit of the doubt and I trust the same would work its way into a campaign ad no matter what.

But I still stand by my initial point that this is a sign of desperation. Biden has already come out against the idea of defunding the police very explicitly and while I am sure that this answer will mean that he needs to deliver a more nuanced view of his policy in the future, it does not rise to the level of defunding the police.

And it definitely is not an example of him saying the police have become the enemy.

 

I looked up the cost of the program that supplies police departments with military surplus items. The cost of these items is minimal or free. The federal govt gives most of the equipment to the different departments. If the equipment is almost free than what funds are Biden referring to?

"Screening for equipment available through this program is conducted on-line. Authorized screeners can search the LESO's website for equipment that is available worldwide. The only costs involved with acquiring equipment obtained are pick-up or shipping costs."
https://ocj.nv.gov/programs/ALL/1033_Military_Excess_Property_Program/

 

Biden's opinion seems to bend with whomever he's talking to at the time. He flip flopped on the Hyde Amendment. He flip flopped on getting tough with China. He flip flopped on higher education.

 

I'm open to it too. For many reasons.

1. Police should do what police are good at. They shouldn't do what they are not good at.
2. We need to support society in other ways and police may or may not be the best avenue for that in certain communities. By certain communities, I mean certain cities or jurisdictions, I'm not referring to race.
3. We should ensure we are properly addressing problems in society that can lead to other, larger problems, before they become that. If more support for mental health reduces crime, we should provide more support and resources for mental health, as an example.

The notion that what Joe Biden said equals what the OP concluded is false, plain and simple.

 

Interesting. Trump made a similar comment about the press. Does Biden get a pass on this one?