8 Supreme Court cases the justices have yet to rule on

Yep, sounds about right...

There's a sequence here... if he HAD the evidence, he wouldn't NEED the evidence....

Again, Vance has enough evidence (Cohen plea and testimony at a minimum) to get a Grand Jury to issue a subpoena to get the indictable evidence...

Saw it all on Law and Order...

 

Again, partial and from 15 years ago.
MSNBC host unveiled details of Trump’s partial 2005 federal tax return leaked to reporter David Cay Johnston
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ro...ps-tax-returns-from-rachel-maddow-107764/amp/

 

moot if he loses? really...thanks for admitting the fears of the court were right..this was a hoax and political fishing expedition.

even if the court would have sided with the dems, none of these docs should have ever been made public...at least that is what Vance argued himself

 

it was the complete 1040...either way it was released and the president alllowed and acknowledged it...so beyond he paid millions...what did you learn?

 

Instead of 'minimum', I'd probably use maximum. And the issue with that is that the words of Michael Cohen can't be taken completely at face value. The man lied to Congress(twice). Not only is it to try and procure the 'evidence', Vance is honestly unsure if it's evidence. Hence he said today 'where it may lead'.

There was nothing in the court document for the court to rule as they've done today, and the wider reprecussions beyond this case will be felt in the Union. The IRS at a minimum is completely redundant with the new superpowers given to a DA.

 

You literally just said that the response was a hoax.

And this virus can STILL kill 1,000,000.

But if you want to celebrate theoretical lives saved while 135,000 actual Americans have died, you do you.

 

Nothing, it was a partial 15yo return. Nobody is demanding he release partial returns from the Bush years.

 

So what?

All that matters is THIS:

The Trump Financial Info WON'T Be Released Before The Election.

Beyond that, I couldn't care less.

 

what was missing from the 1040?

 

so what? you lose if that’s the only motive. it’s also a clear abuse of power

and you are right that’s what matters...the law prevailed over the dems fishing expeditions and abuse of power

 

Well, here's my general prediction.

The US District has likely been waiting for this decision to make their decision in McGahn. Obviously, they will rule absolute immunity is crap and Trump will continue the stonewall and appeal that to the SCOTUS.

I wonder if they'll even hear that one

You care about McGahn, right?

 

LOL, yes, because instead of 'where it may lead', he said 'it will lead directly to the conviction of Donald J. Trump', that would be appropriate statement a DA before his subpoena has even been granted...

Of course he's unsure it's evidence... It's a CRIMINAL ------->>>>> INVESTIGATION <<<<<<<<-------.... some leads will pan out, some won't...

The IRS (thru Mnuchin) failed in their duty to the country by following clear federal law, so investigators were forced to go elsewhere...

I'm not sure if Vance could have gone directly to the IRS here, but he would have certainly failed as well...

 

Of course Trump will continue to stonewall it.

And at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what happens in the McGahn Case (in terms of bringing us closer to any possibility of getting the info released before the Election).

The public will not see the info before November. Period.

 

wow...another hoax by the dems exposed.

my guess after the Court basically called them out on their fishing expedition is we don’t hear from them again. the case goes away. then after trump wins, and if the house maintains dem, they will abuse their office again and move to impeach...meanwhile actually ignoring important things like healthcare (their illegal obamacare got beat down bad in the courts), trade deals (the dems pals in China), roads, airports, the chinese virus, step two in criminal justice reform, etc will be ignored

 

yes of course trump will defend his rights and the office of the president from fascist dems

 

Obviously McGahn is not a part of tax returns, but he could still be compelled to appear in an open door hearing in front of Congress and tell America Trump obstructed justice several times during Mueller...

Frankly, that could be better than Trump's taxes... more entertaining anyway...

 

Glad that we both acknowledge it's an investigation. Now, let's be clear about the distinction between a court proceeding(aka: A criminal proceeding) and an investigation. Of note, the whole subpoena thing was passed by Congress in 1992. It's not even a constitutional amendment, even though it should be one! It's a massive expansion on fourth amendment stature, which the court has now officially codified.

An investigation is not a criminal proceeding, because the person in question is not yet indicted or brought into the system. Even a person of interest, is still seen as innocent in the eyes of the law. Now, of course this does have its caveats(like obstruction of justice, etc.) but it's not a stretch at all to see how they cover different domains.

A police officer/detective gathers evidence, the DA decides to prosecute and the court holds the trial. These, to me legally are all different stages of the process. The court has de-facto stated they're one and the same, I largely disagree and this will have non-Trump implications.

I would have taken a different argument than the one Trump's lawyers take. I hold that constitutionally, this is an expansion on the fourth Amendment and thus it doesn't apply to searches and seizures for documents and property(that requires a warrant.). Even if the court argues that subpoena's can legally be the same as a warrant(which again, is a rewriting of the Fourth Amendment.), the argument you brought up(Vance's 'evidence') would also be a point of massive contention, as Cohen's credibility issues raises serious questions about the state of his case against my 'client'.

 

This is quite possibly the strangest headline of the day, even above Trump

U.S. Supreme Court deems half of Oklahoma a Native American reservation

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...a-a-native-american-reservation-idUSKBN24A268

I wonder what the practical applications of this are going to be??

To bad they didn't get this decision before Trump's failed rally in Tulsa... maybe the tribes could have shut that down and prevented the current Tulsa outbreak....

https://www.tulsa-health.org/COVID19

 

Which I'm sure Trump's lawyers will bring up during a trial... for now, whatever Vance presented to the GJ got a subpoena. We don't know how much, if any, of that was based on Cohen... I'm just guessing, because that's all that's public. For all I know, Vance asked the SDNY for their evidence that they couldn't use to indict Individual 1....

 

haha so after being beat so badly by the Courts...dems are reduced to blaming trump for the chinese virus...and you wonder why we call the dems response a hoax???

 

He did specify Tulsa...I wonder why...

Health official: Trump rally ‘likely’ source of virus surge

 

Aren't you glad to hear that Presidents are not absolutely immune from civil and criminal investigation while in office?

 

To assess the property value of say, Trump Towers, they rely partially on documentation provided by the Trump companies who manage the towers to assess values. Commercial real-estate does not get valued by platt maps like residential does. They rely on bank records and loan information provided by the management companies. It is a federal offense to lie on those documents.

 

This could have interesting effects across most of flyover country. I am curious if Trump tries to inflame the issue or stay out of it.

 

So now, he's going to New Hampshire, a state with very minimal Covid problems (by comparison) and holding this mass hypnosis session outdoors...

So this will be an excellent control group to see if Typhoid Donald can infect another state

P.S. The R governor is taking a pass

SNIP
"I'm probably not going to go to the rally itself because frankly that's just a lot of people," Sununu told a group Tuesday night. "I don't go in big crowds anymore for the Covid thing. I just have to be very careful of that."
ENDSNIP

Don't bank on it, gov....