Question about white race based organizations

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  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe there are similarities in the conditions of a society that allow the likes of Hitler and Trump to be placed in positions of power.
    Compare some things that led to Hitler....
    "On October 29, 1929, the US stock market crashed. This was the beginning of the Great Depression, and few places were hit as hard as Germany.
    Germany was crippled. Industrial production dropped to 58 percent of its previous levels. Unemployment skyrocketed. By the end of 1929, 1.5 million Germans were out of work. By 1933, that number was up to six million."
    "Hitler was thrilled. With the economy collapsing, the German people were starting to doubt that a Democratic government could get things done. He said, “Never in my life have I been so well disposed and inwardly contented and in these days. For hard reality has opened the eyes of millions of Germans.”


    Eventually..........."The German people were tired of the poverty and the corruption. They voted Nazi. What was once considered a group of radical extremists was now the ruling party of Germany."
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    GodWIN!
     
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    You say African, like all Africa is a country. Do you see what you did there?
     
  4. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    * Find ONE black person in this nation today that has ever been enslaved.
    * I can show you thousands of living black people in the nation that Americans blacks descended from, who have been enslaved- by black people.
    AND the people who captured the black people sold to the slave traders... WERE BLACK PEOPLE, selling their captives to the Portuguese.
    NO black in America today would want to trade places and be the descendants of those who escaped capture as slaves in Africa,
    because the quality of life for all their ancestors as well as their life today would be dramatically worse.
    * Explain to me how any white person today (such as myself, whose parentage originated in Germany and immigrated in the late 1800's) has anything to do with slavery anywhere.
    * Slaves were grievously mistreated after the war by white people- and by black people. The black people in the country our slaves came from however were often slaves there, and slavery remained in place there for 40 years after it ended here- only to be replaced with a condition called "forced labor", until the 50's when a 30 year civil war killed as many as a million of them. In America However, the black people mistreating black people has continues to this day- with black people killing over 10 times as many black people as white people do. When you consider that there are almost 7 times as many whites as blacks in America- that makes it over 100 times more likely that a black person will be murdered by another black person than a white one.

    In the last few weeks- many small black children have been shot and killed... by blacks. There are no protestors on the streets for these children, no demands for justice, no riots..... Because- WHY? Because many blacks think of themselves as victims relating to whites, while incapable of dealing with the systemic violence in their own community, and in themselves. They are unwilling to deal with the problems of their own people.

    I feel sympathy for all the fine black citizens in this country who daily deal with the stigma brought upon them by the high percentage of violence and criminals in their race. You should too, because these are the real victims.

    Everybody has experienced abuse of bad treatment by someone or some government or system. Slavery didn't start here, it was thousands of years old- and Africans traded in slaves within Africa, a thousand years before America existed. America has bent over backward to lift our black population to a better standard of living, and for the most part- has been spit on for the effort. I've been personally involved in some efforts to do this- and been treated just that way. However I see that as treatment by individuals of low character- (even though they held positions in government assistance agencies), not by those of the black race in general. That is a choice I make, because I have good values and respect good people. Some blacks do too.... and some don't. Those who don't find it more satisfying to their anger to blame all whites.
    That's not because they are right, but because they still have a long way to grow.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do have to write so much?
    You could have summed all that up into one sentence....
    You could have just said..."If black people are black it's there own d*mn fault."
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    YOU said that, and it's nothing to do with what I said. I can see that rational response and facts made it necessary to abandon discussion.

    ** Color is an accident of BIRTH. Behavior- is a CHOICE. Choice to be a criminal IS your own damn fault.
    People are accountable for their choices. It's only about race to the degree that individual black people choose to be criminals.
     
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  7. Resistance101

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    I can only respond to the questions asked of me.
     
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    Who said so? Mom?
     
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    How do you respond to a question that hasn't been asked?
     
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    Sounds like the plot of many Lifetime movies my wife watches
     
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    When it comes to cops screwing people over, you can take your pick. There are all kinds of tv shows that recreate real life scenarios where the LEO community denied people their Rights and caused the citizen to be hurt, killed, or wrongfully imprisoned.
     
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    Well said.

    And .. bingo on the bolded! Of course it's deliberate. It can't be otherwise.
     
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    For the 1st hundred or so years, it was the USA.
    It took the 14th Amendment to begin the process of changing that.

    Draft of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution, outlining the rights and privileges of American citizenship, ratified in 1868
    https://time.com/5324440/14th-amendment-meaning-150-anniversary/

    But then until the 1960s and the civil rights movement, the country still kept black people as knocked down as possible.
    So now we are at about 185 yrs of the USA being for whites.

    The after the civil rights movement, it took a while, some could argue yet to this day, for blacks to get equality.

    So, the short answer is the organization to help whites, is the USA. And then, most every organization within the USA.
     
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    Oh my ... it's not like you to be that desperate.
     
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    Except that was never the case for colored people.

    They were owned by whites.
    They had to have their own drinking fountains and restrooms after the traitors of the country lost their war to own black people.
    They had their communities redlined and could not get loans to buy houses, or start business, or any other reasons to borrow money.

    So, for most of the USA history, blacks were never judged by behavior. They were judged by skin color and considered 3/5 human by white people until the 14th amendment.

    I have not white guilt.
     
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    I don't have to go hard when the point is made for me.
     
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    You would think if these white devil racists were so active in killing people msm would run it 24/7. But they don't.

    Here where I live there used to be the KKK..My stepdad's brother was a member. All these people are dead.

    Today I know of no KKK . So they must be few in numbers.
     
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    The issue isn't limited to deaths. It inclludes every contact between minority groups and officials such as police.

    White supremacist groups have all sorts of names, with the names changeing over time.

    The idea that white supremacist terrorism left with fewer and fewer people using the KKK name is just not how it works. The majority of terrorist events logged by the FBI are committed by white supremacist groups.

    I'd also point out that a police force can lose the trust and cooperation of a city's minority population without individual police officers being racists. This systemic racism issue can from from how the police force is directed to address various problems, interact with the popuation being policed, etc.
     
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    How many radical right terrorist attacks have you seen in msm. ?

    I never see them enough to notice.
     
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    Jim Crow laws were in the south...including oklahoma where I live... and put in place by southern democrats. These democrats were voted in for a variety of different reasons other then Jim Crow. I'm thinking not every Southern democrat voter agreed with Jim Crow but it was life as they knew it. It took a kick in the ass from the federal government to change society where all races are seen as equal under the law.

    Southern businesses would be breaking the law by going against Jim Crow. How many southern businesses wanted to have one bathroom, one dining room, one water fountain for all customers rather then the expense and complexities of having to sort out separate facilities? People tend to demonize the businesses but frankly they were wanting to stay in business. They'd be shut down by going against the jim crow laws.

    Getting rid of Jim Crow was a huge step up for our nation and all it's people. Previous to that in 1868 the 14th amendment was put in place by "white people"

    In other words, I wouldn't demonize "white people" as the jim crow system was put in place by certain people in a certain area of our country. Even the 1868 14th amendment was added to our constitution to end southern democrat laws causing problems in the south after the civil war.

    I'm in my late 50s. My whole life time I remember nothing about separate water fountains, bathrooms and dining rooms. The typical black 20 year old has no idea. Perhaps now is the time to put the energy sucking anger aside, forgive America for her past sins and take advantage of the opportunities she offers.
     
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    Mega corporations have donated MILLIONS of dollars to BLM. Can you tell me of an organization opposing BLM that got even ... say 10 grand from corporate America?

    In my lifetime, NO organization has been there for whites. America was built on the twin pillars of race and religion. A homogeneous people sought the Right to self determination - a Right we've readily acknowledged for most of the rest of the world. Since my entry into this world there has been affirmative action, preferential hiring schemes, racial hiring quotas, and the government forcing people to rent to, sell to, and buy from blacks. We've had busing and the government has forced churches to accept inter-racial couples or have their tax exempt status revoked - all while telling us that there is a separation of church and state. We've shredded the First Amendment in order to accommodate the black people. There are words that, even here, you would be banned for uttering.

    There is an old saying that free men are not equal and equal men are not free. We all have our individual talents, abilities, strengths, and weaknesses. And, at different times, any number of us have been the victims of political injustices. America has discriminated against the Germans (feeling that too many of them were coming here.) The Irish have faced discrimination as have the Polish and the Italians. Many whites who came here to America came as indentured servants. The liberals will tell you that at least they got their freedom. What a crock! Most were starved and beaten... mistreated to the point that 60 percent of them did not live long enough to see their Freedom. By contrast, slaves were paid for and taken care of. Slave owners had an investment in their property. That doesn't justify slavery, but it does say if the blacks have an issue with anyone, it would be those who financed their slavery. If they follow the money trail, it leads back to he same families that controlled them prior to the Civil War.

    In any event, nobody is trying to protect the average white person, who had no influence in the past and did not own slaves. Tearing down their history is wrong. Two wrongs never make a right. Nobody pointed that out. So, the answer to my original question is nobody is standing up for the Rights of white people. I just did.
     
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    There is one in Arkansas. The guy has apparently been around for eons. His name is Thom Robb. I called and asked what he was doing. He said the blame was people like me. I went to his site. I see where they take donations, link to videos and so forth. They even sell KIan trinkets. They complain... but what do they do?

    Do they teach people how to effectively interact with their congresscritters? Do they organize boycotts of corporations that donate to BLM? Does the Klan have programs to help white people who have been disenfranchised get back on their feet? Does the KKK solicit its membership for money for helping whites who are sick, unemployed or locked out of society? Do they have a program to help people get a GED and a job? Or do they just sit around, play on the Internet and bitch about the world situation?
     
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    What is left of the kkk are low IQ losers. They party and get drunk. A little gang of white losers.
     
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    In your next life I will make sure that you are born a poor black child.
    Then we can all enjoy listening to you sing a different tune.
     
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    Self-pity is a piss poor choice for any person of any color in any position. It insures they will never amount to a damn thing and die miserable.
    It does no good to try to help such people- no matter what you do for them, it only makes matters worse, their excuses more creative and numerous.
    No sympathy for those who blame everyone else for what only they can control.
     

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