Subsaharan African Average IQ - a global, undeniable phenomenon

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  1. Badaboom

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    Why would they?
    You're still messing with the african countries and propping up despot and dictators all over the place so that you can exploit their natural ressources for pennies. Let them elect who they want and trade honestly and they'll grow.
     
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    https://www.cnbcafrica.com/special-...-billionaires-list-africas-billionaires-2020/

    Here are just a few that have returned home and raised the standard of civilization where they live.
     
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    So a bad faith argument is what’s going to follow?
     
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    ~ Much of Africa is currently selling out to China . They may end up communist , but it's very unlikely their nutrition will improve. Trump is not the one responsible for "propped up" government in other nations. That would be the previous 4 administrations.
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    Corporate greed is always a factor.
    ~ Who is stopping them ? Government corruption persists until the people revolt. Africa has much of its' government happy with dumbed down populace to exploit.
     
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    I'm not in the USA, we don't have such Visa.
     
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    No, you've already accomplished that in post #104 when you went on a tangent away from our discussion. At this point, what's the point of arguing?
     
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    I think you are a bit off on the main argument - it is not so much "Education" as in the school system - but enculturalization. How someone is socialized by their parents has a role.
     
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    Perhaps it would serve to decrease their world power status to a measurable degree.
     
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    Like Naked and Afraid? Many average IQ people would survive unless killed by the natives.

    This old argument won't fly anymore.

    Of course this low IQ deal is so touchy because racists use it.

    Yet we have decent IQ blacks in America. But IQ is related to success in first world nations. That may explain why the civil rights act allowed many blacks to become middle class and why some still escape from the hood and become successful. And why so many Ashkenazi Jews win prizes in physics.
     
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    To make a genetic argument for the source of IQ differences between geographically or racially distinct populations, you would need statistical data on population gene frequencies showing that genes associated with IQ differences within populations also differ in frequency between populations, and/or vice versa. Now, maybe such data exist, but I haven't seen them.
     
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    Yes. The difference in IQ within black population is much more varied than averages between various groups like black ,Hispanic ,white, Asian...
     
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    It called "The Bell Curve" also demonstrated that Asians have the highest IQ. which got me to thinking.. why are they the World leaders in inventions and innovations? The Culture is also much older than much of the West, and them it struck me, the Judeo-Christian Ethic.. it is far superior to any other culture in the world and the freedoms and moral code inherent therein allow the best means for the advancement of all people. I've known some pretty dumb people who just follow the rules of Western culture and thrive and live a good standard of living..
     
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    Breaking my rule here of not posting anymore - just too high quality in this post.

    What you have is a culture (african american 'culture') that enables the worst of those who are predisposed towards poor behavior/poor performance - which compounds the problem.

    In other words - everyone else does great in the West (per capita on relative basis this is indisputable if you believe in the concept of GDP whereby the vast majority of Americans are in the top 2%+ of global income internationally). Think of those po' broke southeast asian's 2nd/3rd generation immigrants here now vs. the Somalis in Minneapolis :). I.e. we do have a problem - we have a culture problem, and we have a genetic problem which is heightened by said culture problem.

    Deal with it. Or don't address it and let it cause a decay in the best civs (the West)
     
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    And denial isn't a river in Egypt, why not address the facts?
     
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    Who is half white, was raised in a white home by white parents in a highly predominantly white neighborhood and white culture. Why do we see lower outcomes for blacks in our schools here even when they attend the same schools the other races attend?
     
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    You said we couldn't advance science under my 'model'. I told you that's not how paradigms work, that's what science is. Paradigms. And now you say I'm off topic? I don't think I'm off topic. I think you don't understand how science works based on your posts.
     
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    Why would I let racists have a voice and give them a chance to spout their hatred?
     
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    Probably no data on genetics and inherited psychological traits. But they exist.
     
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    That is an absurd falsehood!

    The population of sub-Saharan Africa is just over 1 billion people so you are erroneously alleging that 333 million of them have AIDS which would be the equivalent of the entire population of America.

    Provide CREDIBLE evidence to support your bizarre allegation that 1 in 3 people living in sub-Saharan Africa have AIDS,
     
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    IQ tests are inherently biased. Most states do not allow them in schools for that reason.

    I have a former student who literally grew up in a home with dirt floors who finishes his Masters in IT in December in the US and is being recruited by two heavyweights in political econ you'd recognize if you are what you claim to do a PhD with them at either Harvard or U of Chicago.
    Opportunity is the key for Africans and biased, preconceived attitudes only perpetuate the challenges.
     
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    Two problems, Kuhn's paradigms came under attack shortly after publication. This isn't to say they are wrong, just that they work better for the general public than for phil of sci.

    Next, phil of sci is descriptive, not prescriptive.

    To be blunt, any claims about intellectual inferiority are DOA with a Do Not Resuscitate tag...
     
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    It's hard to know Ben Carson's IQ he's always on Valium and a half asleep
     
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    What's your point? White people can't jump, and Asians can't drive. So what?

    "Blacks are stoopid." So is your OP.
     

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