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Pelosi recommends law to limit presidential pardon power

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Flynn already pled guilty
     
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  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if Trump is re-elected, that President could be Trump himself
     
    FreshAir, Jul 12, 2020
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  3. struth

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    Congress can’t write laws that are unconstitutional
     
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    and withdrew his plea twice.

    The Central Park Five plead guilty too...and once the dem DA’s hidden evidence came to light they were released and the pleas overturned.

    thankfully this happened before flynn actually was found guilty and went to prison
     
    struth, Jul 12, 2020
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    nope that what the DC Circuit ordered and Sullivan continues to defy
     
    struth, Jul 12, 2020
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  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    doesn't matter, the evidence is there, and he pled guilty

    the confession can be used in a later case

    unless Trump pardons him, he can be tried down the road
     
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  7. struth

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    the evidence is there that he isn’t guilty! read the transcript of the call! read the notes from the fbi! thankfully this evidence the mueller team was hiding came to light...let freedom ring! another left wing injustice exposed!

    there was no confession and the Court order the case dismissed with prejudice.
     
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    When the system has been broken, good people have to fix it...
     
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  9. FreshAir

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    no one buys the Trump defense, neither did Muller, a republican
     
    FreshAir, Jul 12, 2020
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  10. struth

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    that was no defense...just facts. there was no defense trump put up against mueller because mueller found no crimes to accuse him up...just like Comey, Clapper and Yates did in 2016 before obamagate
     
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    I agree, there is no defense for what Trump did

    Mueller said if he did not think he was guilty, he would say so, he did not say so
     
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    what did he do?

    mueller doesn’t get to say if someone is guilty or not...maybe it left wing utopias one person is judge and jury, but not in a free Republic. All Mueller had to do was fine probable cause and recommend an indictment if he had it...a low standard. He couldn’t even find that.

    Now as his entire investigation is being exposed as a hoax and his role as a pawn of the dems highlighted the old man is trying to save a little face. i don’t blame him
     
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    Nor does she particularly care.
     
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    and what exactly does this have to do with the price of tea in China or this thread???
     
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    No proof the President did anything wrong to be protected from.
     
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    Stone was "covering up" for Trump (or anybody) how exactly???
     
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  17. struth

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    true... thank you General Barr!
     
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    Don't see where Trump has been indicated in any wrong with Stone. Another made up story like Russian collusion?
     
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    Why? How many people have been pardoned by a D president meeting the criteria Nancy set out?? A list would be nice

    I may be asking the wrong person, but would YOU give a machete to a 2 year old??

    Same principle...
     
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  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Because we want to change things when we see injustice being done and perpetuated. Duh
     
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    I know, orange man bad. Red herring. Waste of time post. No substance. Thanks for demonstrating your desperation by addressing something that has nothing to do with the subject.
     
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  22. Jestsayin

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    No, it is what you perceive to be injustices and note these "injustices" your side sees are usually standing law.
     
    Jestsayin, Jul 12, 2020
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  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Didn't I just say that? It is the very stuff of politics after all, is it not? No human institution is perfect from the beginning and for all people and all time, it is an endeavor of constant change, a continual striving to an unreachable ideal.

    "A man's reach should always exceed his grasp, or what's a Heaven for?" Browning
     
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    You should read what he was charged with
     
    The Mello Guy, Jul 12, 2020
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    He was convicted on 7 counts of lying to Congress and obstruction, none if which had anything to do with Trump or his role in the Trump campaign, but all of which were process crimes he was accused of during the investigation of his supposed nefarious operations within the Trump campaign -- an investigation that resulted in nothing in and of itself. I take it then you have no exact charges or convictions of Stone covering up for Trump.
     
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