Supreme Court splits on Trump tax cases, potentially shielding returns until after election

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Trump failed on a massive level and is an utter embarrassment. If you're happy with the United States being the worst nation in the world in handling this pandemic simply due to the dipshit we have as POTUS doing nothing but golf and downplay it by calling it a liberal hoax, then good for you. The majority of the voting public don't like the fact that our POTUS failed, and they will send a message come November.
     
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    So you know a bunch of Trump voters that decided they are going to vote for Biden?
     
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    Some Blue State Gov's screwed the pooch by making nursing homes take COVID patients, but other Blue State Gov's, like CA did a decent job, and then just about all the Red Gov's did great. Sans the handful of Dem govs that completely screwed up, and the US well within the top tier of the developed world, and of course was simply terrific.

    The IRS has had Trump tax returns for years. If there was anything juicy, it would have already leaked. You know it, I know it, the American People know it.
     
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    First to cry and sue when it happens to them.
     
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    By re-electing him?
     
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    i am thrilled we are testing more then any other nation
     
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    wow just like biden copied trump’s america first campaign you are copying me?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not a battle cry, an inspiration.

    What's your inspiration... Biden?
     
  9. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Emulate? That makes no sense.

    In order emulate Trump, I would have to lie about everything, write petty, vindictive tweets whenever someone said or did something that I chose to take personally, make a complete mess of whatever job I have, then blame everyone else for my shortcoming. And so forth and so on. I would generally have to behave like a whiny little toddler having a tantrum when things didn't go my way.

    To emulate Trump, I would have to surround myself with obsequious toadies and sycophants who would do my bidding while speaking my praises, all while being completely incompetent in whatever job I've rewarded them with. I would have to get myself a pet AG to use the Justice Department to punish my enemies by launching phony "investigations," and reward my buddies with reduced or commuted jail sentences.

    In order to emulate Trump, I would have to become a narcissistic sociopath whose every word and deed served only my ego.

    That's pretty much the opposite of who I am.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you claiming that there were no such things as subpoenas until 1992? Could you please clarify that and provide a link to your source?

    As for Vance and this case, yes of course they are still investigating. That's why the subpoena was issued, so that a grand jury could rule on whether or not enough evidence exists for an indictment. I'm assuming that, depending upon the specific charges Vance is going for, that this request for Trump's business financials was not deemed unreasonable by the lower court, and now the SCOTUS has agreed with that assessment. No one is doing anything to the 4th Amendment here.
     
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    You are aware that SCOTUS passed down two rulings, aren't you? One ruling went against Trump and in favor of the New York county court, the other went against congress. The two cases are not related.

    Here is the case in which SCOTUS ruled against three congressional committees:

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/506546-read-trump-v-mazars-supreme-court-ruling

    Here is the case in which they ruled against Trump:

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/506541-read-trump-v-vance-supreme-court-ruling
     
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    Opinions written by the Office of Legal Counsel within the Dept. of Justice, part of the Executive Branch are considered next to gospel of pure legalities and constitutional interpretation. An indictment by the NYC DA or any other District Attorney, US Attorney or AG wouldn't last a New York second. Especially, in the case of Vance, over a prosecution that the SDNY has already declared is a no op.
     
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    Which he did after promising to release them if he got the Republican nomination. Which he promised to do after already having said he would release them before that.

    Of course, Trump never lies. Heck, he's a regular Honest Abe 2.0. So we can believe him when he has said - many times - that his business has been under audit. And we can also believe him when he's said that because his business has been under audit he can't release his tax returns because that would be illegal.
     
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    Right from Dirty Donnie the Dummy’s own mouth:

    Jan. 22
    “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
    Feb. 10
    “Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”
    Feb. 24
    “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” (fell from 28.8 to 27.9 )
    Feb. 27
    “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
    March 4
    “Some people will have this at a very light level and won’t even go to a doctor or hospital, and they’ll get better. There are many people like that.”
    March 9
    “The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power ... to inflame the CoronaVirus situation.”
    (Stock Market closes at 23. )
    March 10
    “We’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
    March 18
    “I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the ‘borders’ from China - against the wishes of almost all.” (Stock Market closes at 19,899)
    March 26
    “I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You know, you go into major hospitals sometimes they’ll have two ventilators, and now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”
    ( 83,000 + confirmed cases , 1209 deaths)


    Now with the blood of 130,000+ Americans on Donnie’s hands and him continuing to lie, and lie and lie about what he said and didn’t do, I sure am glad we have a fee press that made a permanent record of his utterances.

    Go on, keep defending him, Trumpster.
     
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    Yes. They are called independents.
     
  16. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Arizona, Texas and Florida are blue States? When did this happen?
     
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    You listen to too much Fake News. Learn to look things up yourself rather than letting idiots like Don Lemon, and Chris Cuomo, the dumbest of all the Cuomos, do your "thinking" for you.

    NY, NJ, CT have a COVID death rate of 1,641/Million

    AZ, FL, TX have a COVID death rate of 220/Million

    In terms of COVID it is 7.5 times deadlier in NY, NJ and CT than it is in AZ, FL, and TX

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    Same disease is many times more dangerous for the average Blue Stater than Red Stater.
     
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    he shouldn’t have repeated his experts? ignored the WHO?
     
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    amazing i know a bumch if dem voters that decided they can no longer support the radicals that have taken the party and are voting for trump
     
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    LMAO. How did you get there from all the lies in Donnie’s quotes ? What “expert” said any of that ?
     
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    Dr Fauci
     
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    Quote please ?
     
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    Feb 29th...americans do not have to change their daily behavior
     
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    You didn’t actually listen to what he said that day, just googled for a quote.

    FAIL

    Try again.

    Hint, Fauci also talked about community spread, contact tracing and isolation protocols. That same day , what did Dirty Donnie talk about ? It’s a Democrat hoax ! What did the feds do ? Nothing.
     
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    i did listen to what he said...yes Trump also had his expert spread the facts

    and trump is right the dems response continues to be a hoax.
     

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