'When I Think of Donald Trump, I Do Think of Lincoln and Reagan'

Then why didn’t they just sign the Corwin amendment? An amendment which would have ended secession and guaranteed slavery as an inalienable constitutional right. An amendment which had already passed Congress, had full support from Lincoln and had already been ratified by multiple union states.

Don’t worry. I’ll wait.

 

Then you know, as Jefferson and the slave owners knew, that slavery was evil and not a fundamental human right. Slavery was protected only by the laws created by the founders. Laws that are always subject to interpretation and change. Fundamental human rights exist independently from any law.

No one can know what would have happened if the South had effectively used its constitutional power to obstruct the operation of the USG until their grievances were resolved through negotiation, but we do know that the USG would have been unable to maintain its military.

The only way Southern power would diminish in Congress would be through the democratic process - elections in the South. The South could have stopped the addition of new free states until the issue of slavery was resolved to its satisfaction. IMO, the South would have been offered a deal too sweet to refuse and voluntarily freed it's slaves. Either that or the North would have eventually attacked the South to initiate a real "war of Northern aggression, that would have had little support - in the North.

 

You tell us about the agreement.

Why did the traitors fire on Ft Sumter?

 

Again, the traitors are those violated the constitution and refused to cease. In other words the north.

But the confederates fires on ft sumpter because the northern army refused to leave and was being reinforced with a much larger army that was marching through sovereign territory. An act of war by any measure.

 

The army refused to leave their own base.
That is all that you need to say. And proves the south were traitors.

You know Army bases belong to the USA, not an individual state.
You just proved, the south fired upon the USA and became traitors at that point. It was their act of war against their very own country. A betrayal.
The very definition of traitor.

 

No actually when the north and federal government breach contract in regards to the constitution then it ceases to exist. And when it ceases to exist, all institutions founded upon that constitution, such as the federal government ceases to have any authority. So the lands cede back to the state from whence they were appropriated in the first place.

 

It was not soverign territory. Every single southern state remained a part of the union for the entirety of the civil war. States have no ability or mechanism to secede. Texas v White.

 

Reagan illegally transported banned military parts and missiles to Iran. How does this make him great?
Reagan gave amnesty to illegals in the US how was that great?

 

Sam Houston called the entire thing right. He was correct that at first the South would seem like they were wiping the floor with the Union, but, at some point the Republicans would finally become aroused, and they they would come down on the South with the fury of a force of nature. Rather than be a part of the slaughter that the Democrats were calling down on themselves, Sam Houston resigned as Gov of Texas, the only Governor to resign, rather than join the Confederacy. A truly GREAT Man, Great Southerner, Great Texan and GREAT American.

 

The outcome of Southern secession was inevitable. The DP secessionist mob refused to listen to Houston or anyone else.

“Some of you laugh to scorn the idea of bloodshed as the result of secession, but let me tell you what is coming….Your fathers and husbands, your sons and brothers, will be herded at the point of the bayonet….You may after the sacrifice of countless millions of treasure and hundreds of thousands of lives, as a bare possibility, win Southern independence…but I doubt it…." Sam Houston before he was deposed from office on March 15, 1861. http://almostchosenpeople.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/sam-houston-and-secession/

 

Sam Houston was one of the finest men our nation has produced, and man could he size up a military conflict.

Unique facts about Sam Houston:

He live with the Cherokees in his late teens.
He was very good friends with President Jackson and completely pissed off the Secretary of the Interior when he showed up in Cherokee Buckskins on behalf of the Cherokees for the Federal Government to please reconsider their pending expulsion of the 5 civilized tribes.
When he lost on this point, he asked for permission to accompany "his tribe" hoping that a familiar face would bring them comfort.
He is the only American to ever be elected Governor from two different states (TX and TN).

His brilliant military campaign against Mexican President Santa Anna to win the freedom of Texas. He ran from Santa Anna, being chased all over Texas as he knew he could not win against the much larger army, but, President Santa Anna made the deadly error of underestimating, split his forces to try to trap Houston between them. Sam Houston knew this was his moment, while he couldn't whip the whole Mexican Army, he and his brave Texans could sure as hell whip HALF of the Mexican Army, and they did, spinning around and attacking the closer half, demolished it, then spun to demolish the remaining half.

He took President Santa Anna prisoner, and then allowed him to Trade Texas Independence for his life, despite Santa Anna's pattern of massacring his Texas prisoners during his victories.

Sam Houston was later the head of Independent Texas.

He was the only former US State Governor, to ever become head of a Foreign State.
He was the only former foreign Head of State to become a US State Governor.

Later he was the only former head of a foreign state ever to be elected to the US Senate.

He was the first person to ever be elected Gov of one State to then be elected US Senator of another State. In 2018 Mitt Romney became the second man in US history to pull off the feat.

And, he is the only Southern Gov who resigned rather than join the Confederacy. He thought the South was making a terrible mistake that would result in their complete and total destruction, despite also predicting that at the start of the war, they would think that they were doing very well, and would have a relatively easy time of it. He called the course of the war, nearly exactly.

People that can size up a situation and a military conflict that honestly and accurately, and so know when to pass on an opportunity to fight, are a rare and real blessing to those smart enough to listen to them. Every Age could use another Sam Houston.

 

Houston was an exceptionally competent leader. Human history proves that real wisdom at the top is very unusual.

 

The GOP should consider Trump an anathema to the party of Lincoln.

 

The Party of Lincoln loves Trump. The challenge is, how do we free Black Americans from the tyranny of failing cities run by Democrats? What's your suggestion?

 

How about advancing policies to make the GOP more palatable to the community. Writing them off as a demographic is a fools errand.

 

You dodged the question. As the GOP freed Blacks from the Democrat Plantations, how can the GOP free blacks from the failing Blue Cities?

You seem only interested in catering to "The Community" of Rich Privileged White Folks. They are self-righteous hypocrites, you're welcome to them.

 

Didn't dodge anything. It’s a “when did you last beat your wife” question. Not playing

 

You don't accept the premise that:
i) Black People live in horrid conditions in Blue Cities where their basic human rights are systematically violated on a daily, if not hourly basis?

and, if you concur, then the question, consistent with this discussion, becomes:

ii) As Lincoln freed Blacks from Democrats, how can Trump free Blacks from these Blue Cities?

 

Reagan was popular after he got shot - and he was party to a historic arms agreement but, he was was a horrible with respect to foreign policy and fiscal issues.

Trump is similar to Reagan with respect to the latter - his foreign policy has been a disaster -and has spent money like a princess with a credit card following Reagans disasterous policies.