What a long strange trip Trumpery has been!

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Let’s hone in upon just one ring of the Trump circus, his confronting the pandemic, leading the nation from
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    “We have it totally under control.
    ... It’s going to be just fine!”

    to achieving unquestioned primacy as the world leader in the number of its victims in the U.S. - drawing upon his vast acumen as a shlock reality-tv entertainer and chronic real estate bankrupt to hype dangerous and ineffective elixirs, propose the illumination of one’s innards, and suggest shooting up on disinfectants.

    “Trump is increasingly defined in voters’ minds by his failing response to the coronavirus crisis, and virtually every action and position he’s taken have been wildly out of sync with where the public is at on what should be done.”
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/506929-theres-a-big-blue-wave-coming

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    JANUARY 22, 2020
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    “We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine!”

    JANUARY 30, 2020

    “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. And those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for it. So that I can assure you.”

    FEBRUARY 24, 2020

    “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA!“

    FEBRUARY 25, 2020

    “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. … As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job!”

    FEBRUARY 26, 2020

    “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done!”

    FEBRUARY 28, 2020

    “It’s going to disappear! One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear!”

    MARCH 6, 2020

    “Anybody that needs a test, gets a test! They’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful!”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/17/how-trump-shifted-his-tone-on-coronavirus-134246
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    More than 3 million Americans have been now infected and over 134,000 are dead — more than twice as many as the number of Americans killed in the Vietnam war.

    Prognosis:

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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not really comparable. Covid-19 is distributed among over three hundred million Americans. The Vietnam war deaths was distributed among about 2.7 million who served there. The risk for Covid-19 is considerably less.
     
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    And, underscoring Trump's penchant for highlighting specific application of his ubiquitous impact,

    ALL POLITICS IS LOCO
    The disastrous happenstance of locus underscore’s Trump’s cartographic virtuosity - no doubt a result of his previous gambit as a five-times-bankrupt real estate mogul - Location, Location, Location! doncha know?


    Of all the convention venues in all the cities in all the states in this vast, hapless nation… Jacksonville!

    In his dazzling geographical wizardry, can he pick ‘em, or can he pick ‘em?

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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    One can finesse the empirical reality, or accept the cold hard data, going from "We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better!" to over 3 million Americans infected and over 134,000 dead.
     
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    You can compare numerous things and get more deaths out of Covid-19, but that does not mean they are valid comparisons. The level of risk is simply not comparable. Covid-19 is bad. Have no doubt, but it does need this kind of exaggeration.

    I was at considerably more risk of dying while serving in Vietnam for a year and if you narrow it down to the time period of a half dozen rocket and mortar attacks, my chances of dying during one of those attacks is many orders of magnitude greater.
     
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    If you are unhappy with the comparative aspect, you can focus, instead, upon the verbatim statements and consider whether to acknowledge the vast divergence with the ongoing, empirical reality:

    JANUARY 22, 2020
    “We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine!”


    JANUARY 30, 2020
    “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. And those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for it. So that I can assure you.”

    FEBRUARY 24, 2020
    “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA!“

    FEBRUARY 25, 2020
    “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. … As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job!”

    FEBRUARY 26, 2020
    “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done!”

    FEBRUARY 28, 2020
    “It’s going to disappear! One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear!”

    MARCH 6, 2020
    “Anybody that needs a test, gets a test! They’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful!”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/17/how-trump-shifted-his-tone-on-coronavirus-134246
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    More than 3 million Americans have now been infected and over 134,000 are dead.

    See https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/coronavirus?ocid=bingcoronaviruslinks
     
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    You do realize that many of those comments reflect the opinion of Dr Fauci who was advising him.
     
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    Lol...It's always someone else's fault in trumpland.
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    Parroting the current desperate, sleazeball attempts to smear Dr Fauci will not allow Trumpers to dismiss the vast discrepancy between Fake Don's undeniable record of denying the seriousness of the pandemic and the actual toll it has taken and continues to take on Americans.

    FEBRUARY 25, 2020

    Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases:​
    “As more and more countries experience community spread,
    successful containment at our borders becomes harder and harder.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/25/cdc-warns-coronavirus-spread-usa-disruption-to-everyday-life-might-be-severe/

    FEBRUARY 25, 2020

    “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country.
    We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. …
    As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job!”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/17/how-trump-shifted-his-tone-on-coronavirus-134246


     
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    I have had experience in this area in engineering. You listen to a lot of experts and then you have to choose which expert to believe.
     
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    It is, by every standard, the greatest failure of any President to respond to a (inter)national crisis. Made worse by the ample warnings from inside the admin, outside the admin, and those in the medical community who are knowledgeable about the dangers of an uncontrolled viral disease spreading at exponential speed.
    That his approval rating is above 30% is an ode to the cult of personality embracing him.

    Nice to see you back.
     
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    And this folks is how a girl makes a scene.
     
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    I heard Trump doubled down and AGAIN called the pandemic a hoax....
     
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    Reality is always being mean to Cry Baby Donny.
     
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    No epidemiological expert advised the former schlock reality-tv entertainer to push dangerous elixirs, shine light into your innards, or inject disinfectants.

    Nor did any tell him, for instance, that "you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero!"

    Many did, repeatedly and over a long period, try to explain to him the effectiveness of wearing a mask in public and avoiding indoor public gatherings.

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    Trump has led the nation to global leadership in the pandemic, and his now whining that bad people made him do it is pathetic and insipid.
     
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    That same "dangerous elixir" is used by many medical professionals. Like I said earlier, he received mixed message from the "experts".
     
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    And this is justification for your allegiance to that lying piece of Orange Turdness?
     
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    I owe no allegiance to anyone. I am not satisfied with the response to Covid-19. However, I am not convinced any of the democrats would have done any better and there are indications that several would have done worse. Neither the CDC or WHO was on top of the situation.

    Just a side note. When it takes vulgar grade school language to make a point, the point must have been pretty weak to start with.
     
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    Look, another orange man bad thread...
     
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    LMAO...Nonsense. Except for the cretin bolsonaro in Brazil, trump has been the worst impediment to dealing with the coronavirus in the US, followed by partisan idiots who think wearing a mask is an infringement on their constitutional rights.

    Every other country with intelligent leadership took the pandemic seriously and managed to keep deaths lower and are now flattening their curves while the US curve continues to go straight up.
    And they listened to the same experts as trump, except that trump makes it all about himself and is only worried that the virus makes him look bad.

    At what point do you people say, 'enough is enough' of the orange dotard?
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    Yes...a death cult.
     
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    Buckle up for 4 more years.
     
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    What a long strange trip Trumpery has been!

    Hope you have been enjoying the ride. I have found it very entertaining.
     
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    Yeah, I've noticed this pattern before. While you don't profess to embrace Trump, your hatred for Democrats and Liberals is greater than your repulsion of Trumps' boorish behavior...and on top of that, you have the audacity to call me out on my "language". I'm sorry I do not share that trait of hypocrisy which tragically afflicts so many on the right. If your sensibilities are offended, may I kindly suggest you put me on fucqing ignore.
     
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    Who said my sensibilities are offended?
    Let me put it this way. When you resort to such language, you are no better than Trump. It is pointless and adds nothing to the argument.
     

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