Progressive dream country

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  1. hellofromwarsaw

    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Totally misinformed imaginary planet you have there. No one is for a dictatorship except some right-wingers for martial law because they are totally misinformed. No Democrat is not asking for anything that every other modern country already has. that would be a living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly texting your greedy idiot billionaire heroes their fair share or more like it. It's not a conspiracy or anything Marxist or communist. You have no evidence are there any such thing, just the GOP brainwash and fear-mongering. Absolute balderdash. Canada Australia and France etc etc are not that scary at all ,everyonei the modern world wonders what is wrong with you people fighting prosperity for the non Rich for a change....
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    The hell they do. Just more garbage propaganda....
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    The committees or Soviets were thought to be Democratic that's why they called the operation socialist, but it soon became obviously they were not democratic and had no power at all. None of this has anything to do with the Democratic party in the United States for God's sake lol...
     
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    Add 18%, the cost of health Care here, to our taxes and they're the same as everywhere else. They love their healthcare and wonder what the hell is wrong with us.... Everything you know is wrong.
     
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    Denmark's top statutory personal income tax rate is 55.9 percent, Norway's is 38.4 percent, and Sweden's is 57.1 percent.Scandinavian countries tend to levy top personal income tax rates on (upper) middle-class earners, not just high-income taxpayers. For example, in Denmark the top statutory personal income tax rate of 55.9 percent applies to all income over 1.3 times the average income. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $65,000 (1.3 times the average U.S. income of about $50,000) would be taxed at 55.9 percent.The greatest difference in the health care systems of the United States versus Norway and Sweden is the cost for the residents.We pay more for healthcare and prior to Obamacare it was the best in the world. The healthcare in Scandinavia is on par with Obamacare and universal only in that everyone is covered but the quality is all over the map.The real difference between Scandinavia and the US is everybody works, there is a very low percentage of freeloaders and entitlements are few and tightly controlled. Unfortunately Scandinavia rolled out the red carpet to the world's flotsam and are now suffering the consequences. Crime is out of control and they don't have a clue about how to deal with it.
     
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    Do you happen to have any realibale sources or evidence for that?
     
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    Is google reliable? What are you referring to?
     
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    I'm referring to the part I have underlined and set in italics.
     
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    “Best” can be defined in many ways.
    If “best” = everyone can access them that’s not the case.
    If “best” = high quality then that’s a possibility, but it’s just my personal opinion.
     
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    Nice of you to admit socialism only succeeds at gunpoint.
     
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    USSR was not Totalitarian before 1929 and after 1953. I am proud of my great-grandparents.







     
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    My tablet is mad in USA, but still... I remember USSR.
     
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    So you want to ignore all of the other facts in that post about tax rates?
     
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    I was specifically asking for reference regarding the claim made by said user and that I underlined.
    If I want to debate other aspects, I'll do that.
     
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    Bologna.
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    You have to be kidding.
     
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    Your opinion vs facts.
     
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    No. USSR was not Totalitarian when we lived there.
     
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    This is great! Rich people can survive these taxes. Many poor people can not survive lack of medical help.
     
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    Before and after Stalin there were controls in place to displace the leader.
    Khrushchev didn’t die in office, didn’t serve time in prison, and wasn’t executed.
     
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    You get what you pay for
    You get what you pay for. In Denmark they actually pay people to go to college and they have wonderful infrastructure vacations health Care daycare... Here we have a ridiculous giveaway to the rich and the screw job for everyone else. Cut the military by 10% and pay for all this stuff.
     
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    And the country was still totalitarian with secret police and terrible prisons and elections that were a total sham
     
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    What is the Danish military budget?
     
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    Socialism is not communism. One is democratic and the other is not end of story. Only Savage capitalist English speaking countriesfollowers of the UK and the United States don't get it. France Spain Italy Germany Holland Scandinavia etc etc have all had socialist parties and Communist parties at the same time. And the Communist parties have disappeared since the Soviet Union stopped supporting them.
     
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    Look it up. Most European countries are spending what we asked them to. Who the hell are we protecting them against? The Cold war is over get with the program. During the Cold war 1 candidate for prime minister there said the Danish should replace their defense with a toll-free number that would say we surrender in Russian LOL. We have plenty of defense especially if the orange clown would stop giving things away to the Russians....
     
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