Three Arizona teachers who shared a classroom got coronavirus. One of them died

Three Arizona teachers who shared a classroom got coronavirus. One of them died
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/us/arizona-teachers-coronavirus/index.html

Three teachers who shared a summer classroom at a school in Arizona all contracted coronavirus last month, leaving one of them dead.
Kimberley Chavez Lopez Byrd, 61, died June 26, less than two weeks after she was hospitalized. The other two teachers -- Jena Martinez and Angela Skillings -- said they're still struggling with the effects of the virus that has killed nearly 135,000 people nationwide.
All three teachers wore masks and gloves, used hand sanitizer and socially distanced, but still got sick, according to school officials at the small community in the eastern part of the state.
Kimberley Byrd had worked at the Hayden Winkelman School District for 38 years -- so long that she'd started teaching the children of her former students.
"Losing Mrs. Byrd in our small rural community was devastating. She was an excellent educator with a huge heart," said Pamela Gonzalez, principal of Leonor Hambly K8. "We find comfort in knowing her story may bring awareness to the importance of keeping our school employees safe and our precious students safe in this pandemic."

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we can just refer to these three teachers as 'sacrificial lambs'.

 

Would ya'll make your minds up already? Now the left is saying masks, gloves and distancing doesn't work?

 

AND SOCIAL DISTANCING -- don't you get it YET? If Trump FORCES governors to open schools, he's signing the death certificate of every teacher or parent or student that dies. It is blood on his hands.

 

Yea...**** those teachers. Just open the schools

 

As it said, they socially distanced. I think the AC theory is a theory that needs to be scientifically tested and STAT. If people are 'breathing' in aerosols through remote means then that's game changing.

 

" SIX FEET DISTANCING "

 

Took the words right out from under my thumbs!

 

How do you know they didn't? It says they practiced social distancing..

 

What are you talking about, I don't have any idea what you mean. Did I say anything about these 3 teachers in regards to social distancing?

 

I guess I could ask what you were talking about by saying:

Kinda gives the impression you were implying they weren't social distancing properly...

 

well no... I was responding to someone else and it had nothing to do with me suggesting they weren't social distancing.

 

Maybe the solution is to outsource all the teaching jobs to India via teleconferencing?

Half the population is English-speaking there.

Who knows, teaching may just turn out to be another job Americans "don't want to do".
They just don't know it yet.

 

Hmm..okay my mistake then.

However they used every precaution and still got sick, so I guess those masks aren't as effective as the left thinks, are they?

Earlier in another thread you were blaming someone getting the virus (I guess because he is a Republican) because they weren't wearing masks, now on this thread is an example of all precautions taken and all 3 got sick with one death, one does have to question the effectiveness of masks...

 

The problem the schools in hot weather states you have air conditioning sending the virus flying through the whole school.

 

That depends on where and how they got the virus. There's more than one way to get this virus. A person can pick it on on an inanimate object, get it on their fingers, touch their mouth or nose and get it that way. This virus can even enter through the mucosa of the eyes.

Another question is when and how they all contracted the virus. Did they infect each other in school? Were they infected while at home or out shopping? The only thing the article explains is that Kimberley Byrd started feeling unwell in June. "She was prone to sinus infections, and also had asthma, diabetes and lupus. Her doctor gave her antibiotics and steroids and on June 13, she went to the emergency room". It sounds as though she was the spreader of the virus to the other two but even that's not 100% certain.

This is why we have been begging and pleading for people to do the simple task of wearing a mask to prevent YOU from infecting anyone else. And, masks are NOT the be-all and end-all solution to prevention. This virus is so contagious, so profoundly virulent that people absolutely must take every precaution including masks, social distancing, wearing gloves, hand washing and not touching anywhere on your face or your eyes or mask -- EVER.

Smart people that have experienced the worst of this pandemic will never question the necessity for wearing a mask. It would be like walking on glass without shoes. My state not only flattened the curve, we crushed it. And I give all the credit to a mandatory mask directive.

 

While I agree it's smart to wear masks when you can't social distance, this article actually would be an argument that masks, gloves aren't very effective. The real question is what the heck do you want to do? Stop all business in America? Stop all education in America, how long? Do the kids now get to graduate when their 19 or 20? What about the parents that have to work, who educates the majority of kids in this country? Who pays the bill for all these parents that can't work, the government that isn't making money because of massive amounts of unemployment from parents that can't work? There isn't any good answers here and you have to apply risk/reward formulas and it doesn't work out without kids going to school.

 

It would only be an argument that masks aren't effective if all the students were wearing them too.
Also, no one has claimed that masks are 100% effective.
What is 100% effective is staying at home and avoiding unnecessary contact with others.

 

There is no way of knowing if they infected each other or if they were individually infected by the kids (or even one super spreader kid)

Bottom line...it is not safe to open schools and this is why

 

Well you can't possibly always stay home, someone has to go out. When they do they could catch it and insure everyone at home does as well. What about other factors, most people have to work so who's paying those bills when their unemployed and the country is shut down economically? There are no good answers here except stop it at the source, Wuhan. That didn't happen so we are faced with an impossible situation and masks may help but we're going to have to live with this thing to survive until a vaccine can slow it.

 

California just locked down... because they screwed up in opening in a stupid and hasty manner.

We’ll see that over and over until we learn

 

The fewer people leaving their homes the lower the chance of spreading the virus. BLM protesters and people marching to protect their ''rights'' both need to learn this.
While infection rates rise and regions close down again the economy is going nowhere. Pubs and non-essential shops have reopened here in the UK but they are running at a loss because people don't feel safe.
The countries with the strictest and most adhered to shutdowns have been the first to reopen and those who continuously ignore the scientific and medical advice will be the last to see their economies recover.

Ps, there is still no firm evidence that Wuhan was the source of the infection. Samples from Spain's sewer systems have shown the presence of the virus going back to December 2019.
Apportioning blame will not put an end to this medical and economic crisis. Following clear medical advice might.

 

South Korea says hello....Talking in absolutes is foolish when dealing with this virus. I don't give a damn where it started or didn't start but we know for sure that in December China knew it was spreading human to human, if they would've alerted the world then it could've helped stop this thing, true?

 

Classes should absolutely be postponed until the curve starts to flatten. In the meantime, everyone should definitely continue to follow the guidelines that have been emphasized over and over again by the CDC, scientists, physicians, etc.

The thing is, there is no tried and true formula and there won't be until a vaccine becomes a reality. We can only all do our best to prevent the spread until that happens. Priorities have be be set and right now saving lives are the priority over education.

 

Even if we get a working vaccine there are enough conspiracy theories about vaccines being harmful that there won't be full compliance with taking them. At least then those who refused to take them will only be endangering themselves.

 

Again the curve has flattened in most places so are you saying those should go? If so I agree, the hotspots shouldn't but the others should, same as the CDC and Trump. This isn't a one size fits all policy nor can it be in America. If you look at the US curve then it's flattened but that doesn't mean every city needs to go to school. It sounds like we agree on more than we thought and it's why I can't stand political hacks saying shut it all down or open it all up, doesn't nor shouldn't work that way. Each city has to evaluate their situation and make the decisions locally like our founding fathers designed the US.