Do You Believe Trump To Be A Genuine Racist?

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  1. Moriah

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    Racism can be revealed in many different ways. So---I have free advice for you:
    Practice social distancing. Wear a mask when out in public. Wash your hands frequently.
    Take care and have a nice day. :afro:
     
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    I accept your concession of the point.
     
  3. Moriah

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    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"---Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
    Dr. King really had a way with words, didn't he?
     
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    In this case, we have:
    - Your ignorance of the definition of "racism".
    - Your belief that Trump is "racist" while knowing you have no ability provide examples of his statements that fall under that definition.
    - Your failure to realize MLK2's statement refers to people such as yourself.

    Well done.
     
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    If I knew how to do a poll on here, I would ask
    Do you consider obama to be racist
    100% of the time
    90% of the time or
    80% of the time.
    then I would report the results as 100% of the country thinks Obama is racist more than 80% of the time.

    See how that all works.
     
  6. ptif219

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    Show specific proof
     
  7. Moriah

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    Google: Trump/race relations; there is your proof.
     
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    Not until he beat Hillary.
     
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    Show your proof and be specific
     
  10. Moriah

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    Practice social distancing. Wear a mask while out in public. Wash your hands frequently.
    Take care and have a nice evening. Thank you for the conversation.
     
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    Nope, he hates everyone equally except for himself and his daughter who he "loves" very much ;) ;)
     
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    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"
    - Martin Luther King Jr,
     
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    Your concession, again, accepted.
     
  14. The Centrist

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    It really doesn’t matter if anyone believes he is racist or not.

    If he is one, it will shock no one. His words and tropes make a good argument in support.

    If he isn’t and this is all jingoistic rhetoric to appease the reactionary demographic, it doesn’t make him any better of a person.
     
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    You present a false dichotomy.
    What if he isn't, but the claim that he is has been falsely repeated, over and over, by his political opponents and their lackeys in the press, to the point where said perception takes hold among the unthinking masses?
     
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    How is it a false dichotomy?

    Either he is someone making remarks that are racist or he is a racist making remarks.

    Pick one
     
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    You do not allow for more than two choices.
    I presented a third - an option you did not address:
    What if he isn't, but the claim that he is has been falsely repeated, over and over, by his political opponents and their lackeys in the press, to the point where said perception takes hold among the unthinking masses?

    Well?
     
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    https://gen.medium.com/trump-keeps-...he-ever-growing-list-of-examples-21774f6749a4


    Just my opinion here, but I don’t see a third option.
     
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    That does not in any way mean it is not.

    Racism/racist has a specific meaning:
    - The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.
    - The belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another

    No one can cite and quote a statement by Trump that falls under the definition of racism/racist.

    Thus, option #3. It appears you have fallen victim.
     
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    No, that is your opinion. If you choose not to call those comments racist that’s your right.

    It doesn’t render my opinion incorrect. See, how that works.
     
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    No. It's fact.
    If you think you can cite and quote a statement from Trump that falls under the definition of racist/racism, please do so.
     
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    I did. You do not AGREE those statements are racist.

    If you won’t condede that they are or even consider how they could be interpreted as such we are done here.

    You don’t get to call something a FACT because you say so.
     
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    None of those statements espouse, demonstrate, convey or otherwise state the belief that:
    - Different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.
    - Groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another

    If you disagree, then cite one of the statements, quote the text, and demonstrate that the statement falls under the definitions, above.
     
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    Not going to quibble over this.
    Have a nice day!
     
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    Your concession, accepted.
     

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