Virus appears mysteriously at sea on Argentine navy ship

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    If we don't start achieving 100% mask compliance then we'll never get a handle on this virus then, ya, we will be shutting down again. Only it wont be a controlled thing like last time. It will be all out chaos. Cities fighting their states, states fighting each other, employees just walking out, teachers going on strike, grocers will stay open but the places that distribute to them will shutter, everything will be hard to find, paychecks will stop coming, and in the middle of it all we'll have a nation wide riot over the results of this election.

    It is a pressure keg ready to explode and end the country and all we have to do to stop it is agree to submit to 100% compliance with masks and social distancing because if one thing has been made PERFECTLY CLEAR is that the GOP's belligerent uninformed uneducated science denying mask denying COVID myth perpetuating re-open crusade brought about the exact resurgence of COVID that it was predicted and warned to cause.
     
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    Appears people can have it with no symptoms longer than we thought, and could be the virus can hide in the body growing before even a nasal swab detects it
     
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    if a person can catch it today, and the virus hide out in the body for 35 days before showing up on tests, that is not good
     
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    The coronavirus flies on the wind up to 5000 feet in altitude, like many fungi and germs. Where it comes down and gets breathed in and infects somebody nobody knows.

    It all depends on your airborne luck or lack of it. You can run, you can hide, but you can't decide if you're going to get the coronavirus or not.

    You could get it a hundred miles out fishing for billfish.
     
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    I have yet to see the data that suggests that the virus is sustainable in the wild in sunlight for longer than 20 or so seconds. Is there a suggestion that it can lie dormant until breathed in?
     
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    Maybe the virus was on some surfaces inside the ship before the crew came aboard, left by cleaners or maintenance crew.
     
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    It's airborne. It's issued an opaque parachute.

    The truth is that science knows very, very little about it, and they've just been guessing and conjecturing all this time.
     
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    It appears to be everywhere. Thankfully it is not usually fatal.
     
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    wait!!!!! is it masking up or social distancing?

    which do you want?

    If masking up, why can't I come within 6 feet of you?
     
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    very rarely fatal

    wait til we get an idea of the amount of folks with antibodies
     
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    ah, despite having been in lockdown for 14 days prior to sailing, and then being tested and all results negative, they should have masked up including while sleeping and showering. I've heard on this forum that masking up, especially with the cute, home-made masks, is the utopian cure.
     
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    You will --- Often --- In any Walmart, Target, or supermarket. Many somebodies always can't understand the arrows and the do not enter signs and that they shouldn't be long jumping in the store.

    So I wear an industrial mask with a surgical mask over and am ready to parry intruders into my personal space.
     
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    It could have passed from one asymptomatic sailor to another for days. The tests are notorious for inaccurate results (when they come up negative) as high as 30%
     
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    I assume Trump is having people on ships tested daily
     
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    . . . spontaneous generation is a myth. We've known this for centuries. The virus does not just maaaaagically appear. It was contracted from somewhere. And aggressive measures and the economy are not mutually exclusive; the complete opposite is true. The best thing we can do for the economy is to tackle the disease aggressively. Simply letting it "wash over" us is both more dangerous to human life AND more economically damaging.
     
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    And California is proving that accurate.

    They are AGAIN shutting down...that kind of yoyo effect is devastating for small business
     
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    "Aww come on, Jerry, we've been over this. You know you got to do both!" --Mr Meeseeks
     
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    Tell that to all the dead people's loved ones.

    AND even if one recovers that is NO guarantee they won't have lasting medical issues, many do...
     
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    And positives, want examples watch the PGA tour every week. Some golfer tests positive with no symptoms and gets sidelined. They then test daily and miraculously throughout the next week he gets three straight negatives and gets to play. I've got a good friend on the tour and they have lost all confidence in positive tests because of this. They get tested before they leave for a tournament, once the arrive and after the tournament. If positive with symptoms, your out for two weeks minimum and 3 straight negative tests. No symptoms you're out until you have 3 negatives and they test daily.
     
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    Like I said, bioweapon. The Chinese attacked the world with a bioweapon. It's become clearer with each and every rare property this virus has. It was biochemically created and then released to the world. The US Congress should immediately pass a Sanctions bill as strong if not stronger than the Russian Sanctions on China.

    Russia took a port, China infected 13 million humans with the virus.
     
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    and Trump played it down? why? is Trump working with the Chinese?

    could it be Trump wanted the virus to spread, some say the reason Trump shutdown the economy is because he knew it was failing, and the only way for him to inject trillions into the mega corps was to use the virus crisis to do so, if that did not work, he would blame it on the virus, win\win as far as Trump was concerned
     
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    Who knows. All I know is that there's things China knows, that they're not telling us. It's the new Nazi regime of the 21st century and i wouldn't put anything past Xi. I see him literally as a mortal threat to the USA and our prosperity.
     
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    yeah, I would not trust Xi or Trump to give us the entire truth, both like to lie and do it easily
     
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