Is the N-word Acceptable in Music?

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Is the N-word acceptable in music?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    15 vote(s)
    62.5%
  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry- my mistake. I did not read your last sentence.

    So what you're saying is, if you aren't AA you may not repeat the lyric?

    Which by definition, is racist.
     
  2. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    It’s alright, and no that’s not what I’m saying. Race isn’t the same thing as ethnicity. Rap is part of ethnicity in some vague sense of the word, culture isn’t ethnicity but it kinda is. It’s weird. So you can be a different race, if it’s part of the ethnic identity. Race is irrelevant, it’s ethnic identity that matters.
     
  3. ArmySoldier

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    So let's make this basic. I feel like you're thinking too much about this.

    Let's take this song in the OP for example. If a white man, an Asian man, a Hispanic man, and an African American man are all at a bar together enjoying music. This song comes on and they all sing the lyrics as are sang in the song. Can everyone repeat the lyrics?
     
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    Do they all belong to the same ethnic identity?
     
  5. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok. You know what. Just move on. lol

    You're overthinking this. It's very simple. I think it's time for you to hit the philosophy threads.
     
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    No, I’m really not. It’s ethnic identity. Not race.

    Let’s think of it with national identity this time.
    Same scenario but they’re nationals of the same country but this time it’s national anthem. Will the race matter, or will national identity matter in who is allowed to sing that song?

    Now add in a foreigner. Should that foreigner be compelled to sing the national anthem of their host country?
     
  7. ArmySoldier

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    Let's just break down your previous posts easily that way we have your answer:

    You answered earlier that "no", white people or non AA could not sing along to the N word.

    We have your answer. Please stop derailing with all of this identity nonsense. The thread is extremely simple.
     
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    If that’s how you want to treat my position, go ahead. I can’t stop you. I’ve explained it as best as I can.
     
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    Why is being able to say the N word important to you?
     
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  10. Moriah

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    You can still say the N word in the company of your White family members and friends with no problem.
     
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    It’s already in full use by African Americans and African Europeans.

    It’s just a word.
     
  12. undertheice

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    is it acceptable? acceptable by who? racism, like any other form of bigotry, is a matter of intent. all of this "unintentional racism", racism through "white privilege" and systemic racism defined as the failure to give special privilege to groups with a history of being discriminated against is nothing more than a load of political crap. the words themselves are meaningless. it is the intent behind their use and the power we give them that is capable of causing any harm at all.

    of course, we now live in a society where saying that all lives matter can get you killed. supposedly legitimate organizations are now attempting to justify such violence as the proper response to even imaginary offence. so sing along at your own risk.
     
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    Might be safer to just hum the lyrics. :)
     
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    If the artist put it out there, then I think the answer is yes. And if he is against that, he shouldn't have put the word in there.
     
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    I'm a person who hates and despises CENSORSHIP of any kind, in anything (except that situation about shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater, etc.)

    Freedom of Speech is one of the very most highly-treasured of our rights and we should be allowed to say and write ANY DAMN THING WE WANT TO, face-to-face, in songs, in posts, on 'social-media', or anywhere else.

    People who want to censor our Freedom of Speech are totalitarian, manipulating cowards and bullies!

    So -- yeah -- if you want to say "the N-word", or anything else, you should be able to. But you can see what happens when you do! You get censored!
     
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    No, it's a double standard, but not inherently racist, just inherently hypocritical to the extreme. The "banned" or Unacceptable part should apply to all artists, from a moral pov. How can you be against hate speech and ignore the most frequent abuse of exactly that. The music issue to me is a big major issue that the most important people refuse to acknowledge.

    Somewhere on youtube theres a white girl at a hip hop concert on stage, I'll dig it up of I can.

    Edit, here you go. And its Kendrick lamar of all peeps. Probably the biggest abuser of them all with lil wayne a close 2nd.



    So basically, kendrick says no way whitey.
     
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    Is everyone else a really big dude, armed, and the AA man in a wheelchair?
     
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    Handed to them on a silver platter... Is, I think is what you are referring to...

    Back on topic... I don't like or use the N word. It is derogatory and it sounds that way irrespective of who is using it!
     
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    If African Americans think it is offensive to them when whites say the word, then they should not be using the word either. It’s offensive no matter who says it.
     
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    when racists say it, they accentuate the "R" sound at the end of the word.

    in hip hop/rap, the "R" sound is almost always dropped.
     
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    As the previous poster has pointed out, so long as you are saying the word ending with an "a" instead of "r", and of course if it's plainly obvious that you're singing along with a song (not on your headset), then you're generally ok. Context matters like everything in life.
     
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    "Is the N-word Acceptable in Music?"

    either the word can be used or it can't, either it's racist or it's not

    I prefer no one use the word
     
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    do you think is ok for all Americans to say it one way vs the other... or is this something only certain races are allowed to do?
     
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    I think it's a bit awkward for anyone to sing, regardless of race

    I was raised to know better than to use such hurtful words
     
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    Based upon what happened to a Kendrick Lamar fan...

    Kendrick Lamar Accused of Setting Up White Woman to Sing N-word Onstage for Publicity Stunt

    ...I would say no one who isn't black should be using the N word. If you are a fan of hip hop or rap, too bad. It's not meant for you.
     

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