Is USA 2020 a Free Nation?

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Modern American Society is

  1. Free

    7 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Authoritarian

    6 vote(s)
    42.9%
  3. Totalitarian

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  1. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No they're not, but you're free to say they are if you really want to. :cool:
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is firing people for not praising him enough, sad
     
  3. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Sad. But the vast majority of corporate power is wielded by the Left.
     
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    Based on most other countries yes we are free. That is slowly changing though as the congress cedes more power to the executive branch and the federal government continues to overreach.
     
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  5. FreshAir

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    really?

    I don't think everyone on the right is as bad as Trump at business, so that can't be true
     
  6. cirdellin

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    No society is fully free but the US and my country come pretty close
     
  7. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    You people just keep repeating this tripe in the face of massive evidence to the contrary. Did you miss all the riots and looting and arson and deaths, including a child?
     
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    Rioting isn’t terrorism. My bet? The Riots were started by right wing terrorism against minorities and how the stats let them exist through arguments surrounding “gun rights”. Remember the south might have been told to stop lynching, but the KKK still existed.
     
  9. FatBack

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    LOL. You cant wake those only pretending to be asleep. When did antifa and BLM become "right wing"?
     
  10. Kranes56

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    About the same time as Dylan Roof shot up a church and was allowed to walk away without dying.
     
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    I guess you think that event from a single gunman from how long ago? 2015 suddenly transforms LW terror groups (responsible for multiple homicides and riots and looting and arsons, nationwide) magically into the "RW"?

    Q. What do you get when you combine lefty pretzel "logic" with magical thinking?
    A. Riots and looting and homicides and arson, nationwide. What riots and looting and arsons and homicides nationwide?

    Next you will claim CHAZ was right wing and RW leaders coddled it. Go ahead and reply, I mat answer later, I dont have time for this foolishness. We country folk call it "piss in your face and call it rain".
     
  12. Moonglow

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    How does the left fire anyone? Be specific show us where and how people get fired...
     
  13. Moonglow

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    So now corporations are so called leftist if they fire you for what you say they don't agree with? This has been going on since this nation was founded, now tell me what makes them a "leftist" which is a generic word and doesn't specify anything but a lazy use of language.
     
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  14. CCitizen

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    1) I do not owe anyone an explanation.

    2) I would be interested in hearing from Conservatives and other non-Leftists who are afraid that their co-workers find out their opinions.
     
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    Of course you owe anyone an explanation since you can't explain to anyone what you mean....No surprise.
     
  16. VotreAltesse

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    It's complicate to answer as things as "authoritarian" and "totalitarism" are refering to previous models. I didn't voted so.
    History is both an eternal renewal and it's not :
    If the deep human nature and psychology doesn't, which in consequence make a lot of societal mechanism ever existing, culture and more important technology may deeply change.

    Since internet, a lot of things changed, before internet, the state had almost the monopoly on regulating the speech of people. Now, regulating freedom of speech is largely made by private companies. A capitalist dream.
    We may interrogate freedom of speech is regulated online. By the way, there is the classic claim that private companies do whatever they want, which is false, a private company can't for instance allow or tolerate call to terrorism or doing illegal things.
    The role that private companies play today in regulating freedom of speech is unprecedented, and clearly, we lack the intellectual tools to face the whole repercussion of that.

    Online discussions have this feature to be semi private, they may be private on first hand as they involve only a handfull individuals and may become public then.

    There is obviously an extreme rise of political tensions. Obviously, if people are afraid of expressing a particular political opinion even moderated, as they could face then unemployement, harrassement or physical threats, there is a loss of freedom.
     
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    I agree 100%. Laws written decades or centuries ago are ill adapted to 21st Century Technology.
     
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    America is fighting the Totalitarianism of the Left, they also already have monetary socialism via their federal reserve... America however still have far more freedom than many other countries and Trump is dismantling the chains of the radical left, no wonder the Democrats, central bankers & hedgefund managers are panicking... they can feel their grip slipping
     
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    Yes we still have a free country but it is noticeably less free than it was 50 years ago.
     
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  20. CCitizen

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    I agree 100%.

    In USA 2020, a slightest joke offensive to the Left is a firing offense.

    In USSR 1980, many people joked about Communism and Brezhnev. Very few were fired/arrested.
     
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