Transcript of George Floyd's murder prove that he was cooperating

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    "MY"? [Golem]? What does that mean? Are you implying I somehow run the washington post? What does [Golem] mean here?

    ^ odd that you missed my question.

    Already addressed, try reading what is written before responding: "
    He restrained in the car presenting no threat to them. No need to pull him out, simply restrain his head. The ambulance was on the way, he was no threat to the cops, there was no need to put him out on the ground in a stress position they had been trained not to use. Nor was he such a threat to himself that he needed to be laid out in such a stress position that would kill him when they could simply restrain him from banging his head. This makes their use of force excessive, excessive force is a felony, according to the autopsies (plural) that force contributed to the death and that means the charge is felony murder. I'm sorry that bothers you."

    So to prevent him from injuring himself, they held him in a position they had been trained would likely cause his death? And which did in fact contribute to the cause his death? And which hold was entirely unnecessary, constituting an excessive amount of force and thus a felony against his person? Which the autopsies (plural) state was a significant contributing factor to COD? IE Assault leading to homicide otherwise known as Felony Murder?
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    I did read your conjecture and refuted it with the facts. No one claims he was a threat to the officers at that point he was threat to himself, strawman. His preexisting heart condition caused his death.

    You're not Golem to whom I was responding in that quote.
     
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  3. Reality

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    You must be not reading.

    Here let me highlight still further ""Nor was he such a threat to himself that he needed to be laid out in such a stress position that would kill him when they could simply restrain him from banging his head. This makes their use of force excessive, excessive force is a felony, according to the autopsies (plural) that force contributed to the death and that means the charge is felony murder. I'm sorry that bothers you.""
    Also:

    "So to prevent him from injuring himself, they held him in a position they had been trained would likely cause his death? And which did in fact cause his death? And which hold was entirely unnecessary, constituting an excessive amount of force and thus a felony against his person? Which the autopsies (plural) state was a significant contributing factor to COD? IE Assault leading to homicide otherwise known as Felony Murder?
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    Yes he was a threat to himself and had already bloodied his mouth. He died because of his preexisting heart condition in combination with the meth and fentynal he had in his system and then his resisting arrest causing a physical struggle. The cardiac event which killed him started before he was on the ground and not the responsibilty of the police. Had he cooperated and submitted to the arrest he would be alive today.

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    ""Nor was he such a threat to himself that he needed to be laid out in such a stress position that would kill him when they could simply restrain him from banging his head. This makes their use of force excessive, excessive force is a felony, according to the autopsies (plural) that force contributed to the death and that means the charge is felony murder. I'm sorry that bothers you.""
    Also:

    "So to prevent him from injuring himself, they held him in a position they had been trained would likely cause his death? And which did in fact cause his death? And which hold was entirely unnecessary, constituting an excessive amount of force and thus a felony against his person? Which the autopsies (plural) state was a significant contributing factor to COD? IE Assault leading to homicide otherwise known as Felony Murder?"

    Additionally: The autopsy you have endorsed says the stress hold contributed significantly. You've even admitted the force was excessive and therefore felonious assault. Felony murder is the proper charge here.

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    So not the FULL transcript then? I trust that you've heard about the release of bodycam footage, although I wouldn't be surprised if you missed it given that the media has largely ignored it. Thoughts?
     
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    By "the media" I assume you mean Fox. Because it has been all over the real news. And it's even more heart-wrenching. It shows a human being fully cooperating, but in an absolute state of panic. The kind of panic you would expect of anybody who realized that that he is looking at the last minutes of his life, and the only thing he doesn't know is HOW he is going to be murdered.

    Seeing the video it's clear that it was much more than just "cooperating". Maybe that's not the right word because it was much more than that. This was somebody who was pleading for his life at every second in that video.

    I think BLM has actually shown quite a bit of restraint by keeping their protests mostly non-violent. This type of things have been the cause of wars. And even without body-cams.
     

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