Putin, Zelenskiy Discuss Conflict in Eastern Ukraine on Eve of Ceasefire

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  1. Giftedone

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    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...nflict-in-eastern-ukraine-on-eve-of-ceasefire

    Looks like Puntinsky and Zelenskiy starting to work things out in Ukraine. That will change the equation somewhat - Ukraine being a big thorn in Russia's energy expansion agenda.
     
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    This is BS....nothing to work out....I'll hazard a guess there'll be more fighting not long after the "ink is dry".....any agreement with the Asiatic vatniks isn't worth wiping your ass on.

    Sure an agreement can be reached....remove all vatnik military out of LDPR....and return Crimea.:roflol:
     
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    What is "BS" of course there will be more fighting - How does that make the idea that the relationship seems to be improving "BS"

    Can you not manage a post without hyperbolic and unsupported accusations ?
     
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    Ohh, I'm assuming you know this for a fact there won't be more fighting?

    I've managed most of my postings with supportive links. And I haven't posted dubious vids in the past....can't say the same for you.
     
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    Never claimed there wouldn't be more fighting - Do you have something other than fallacy ?

    Says the fellow who can't manage a post without engaging in ad hom or some other fallacious gibberish.
     
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    LOL....nice try at deflection gifty....you're rather adept at it.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not deflect at all - I attacked your strawman and ad hom fallacy directly - called it out for what it is.


    Your Tactics are laughably childish - Step 1) Falsely accuse someone Step 2) when they say "Hey - I didn't claim that" - accuse them of deflection.

    Smooth operator you are not :)
     
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    Oh there it is....name-calling again. Next thing you'll be running to the mods like you did last time.....and they chastised me for picking on you. You're a piece of work shifty....:)).

    If you can't take the heat....get outta town dude.
     
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    Putin is much more the statesmen than any western leader. Perhaps Russia and Ukraine can become friends again, but that would be only if the US influence was weakened.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not call you names - I stated that falsely accusing others - and then accusing them of deflecting when they call you on that false accusation - is a childish kindergarten tactic.

    Not my fault that you engage in such tactics. I did not call the mods on you - for it was me picking on you that has you butthurt - exposing your flaws .. for which you had no response other than to engage in the above tactic.
     
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    This is yet another sign of US influence weakening. Trump has been running around trying to beat the nations of the world into submission - messing with their sovereignty - forcing them to go along with his unilateral Iran Sanctions. This caused a major backlash.

    While they complied with the Iran Sanctions - kicking and screaming - in other decisions - where Trump is trying to force them that nation to Choose sides - these nations are choosing the other side - and this includes the EU.
     
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    This is excellent news for Ukraine and its people, the sooner they move out of Soros' grip the sooner their lives will improve
     
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    Fat chance of that ever happening.

    Well wait....withdraw from Crimea, as well as LDPR, full reparations of damages incurred.

    Even then it's a long shot. ....no matters, they're headed for NATO membership anyway. Yes, little Kremlin porch monkey is a helluva statesman! LOL.
     
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    Crimea is not Part of Ukraine - never has been in any real sense - has been a strategic interest under Russian Control for 400 years.

    Ukraine knew this - NATO knew this - what is it that you are having trouble understanding ?
     
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    Ok...it's not "part" of Ukraine.....but a "strategic interest" of Russia? So it's not really anybody's then? So according to you....Alaska is still Russki territory.....even though there's an official bill of sale purchase in 1867?

    Seems like you have some problem with comprehension?
     
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    You are projecting your issues onto others again.


    I never said Crimea was not part of Ukraine - what I said was that region has been under continuous control of Russia for 400 years.

    What part of this statement was difficult for you to comprehend ?

    Possession is 9/10's of the Law. Take Israel for example - and your Alaska example is loopy doopy.
     
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    Lol....well you just said it was never really part of Ukraine....scroll back up!LOL....seems you're contradicting yourself.

    "Under Russki control"....so it's under illegal control, and not part of the RF. Much like the current situation in the DPR.
     
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    Possibly English is not your first language - "Never Really Part of Ukraine"

    What do you figure that means. Hint - it does not mean that Crimea was not considered Part of Ukraine.

    What it means - something you should have figured out by now - is that although Crimea was considered part of Ukraine - it was under Russian Control the entire time - and so realistically - it was not under Ukrainian control.

    Hopefully this clears up your confusion.
     
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    Well ,yeah....I speak English just fine ....gifty.

    Well....make up your mind. Either Crimea is part of Ukraine....or it isn't? It's illegally under Russki control?

    I'm not trying to be your pain in the ass gifty...but you're being awfully contradictory here.:))
     
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    Your question is answered in the previous post ...

    "What it means - something you should have figured out by now - is that although Crimea was considered part of Ukraine - it was under Russian Control the entire time - and so realistically - it was not under Ukrainian control.

    Hopefully this clears up your confusion."


    I have not seen evidence of this splendid speaking ability - but will take your word for it. What then is the source of your confusion ?
     
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    Lol....whatever you say there Borisya....seems your popping a vein in your cabbage. I suspect you'll run to the mods shortly?


    Oh, btw. That ceasefire thread you started..you can collectively wipe your ass with,lol.

    http://www.uawire.org/kyiv-reports-...-pro-russian-militants-of-violating-ceasefire

    Nooo....heavens to mergatroid, who woulda thought **** like this could happen.

    But, hey, give peace a chance....huh, shifty gifty?:roflol::roflol:.
     
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    Definitely some vein popping going on - but what you are seeing is your reflection in the mirror :)
     

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