Anyone remember Meng Wanzhou

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  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone remember Meng Wanzhou forced to
    reside in :flagcanada: for . . . .

    Is she being , Assanged? :eekeyes: In :flagcanada:

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/huaweis-cfo-wins-canada-court-055443640.html

    Huawei's CFO wins Canada court fight to see more documents on her arrest
    (Reuters) - Lawyers for Huawei’s chief financial officer have won a court battle after a judge asked Canada’s attorney general to hand over more evidence and documents relating to the arrest of Meng Wanzhou, according to a court ruling released on Tuesday.

    Meng’s legal team has contested her extradition in the Canadian courts on grounds that the United States is using it for economic and political gain, and that she was unlawfully held, searched and interrogated by Canadian authorities acting for the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). . . .


    Moi :oldman:

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    FREE Meng Wanzhou because
    Babes Need To Be FREE








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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.




    After All, We know how :flagcanada:s treat a lady
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    UPDATE


    :flagcanada: continues to deny FREEDOM
    to Meng Wanzhou after near 2 years of scratching their butt over her.

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    What happened to speedy trial?
    Meng Wanzhou has been "detained" in :flagcanada: since 2018!
    Stuck in :flagcanada: is imprisoned! :rant:
    And no due process.


    Moi :oldman:
    :flagcanada: Watcher






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    Interesting.

    What do you think is really going on here?
     
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    Most likely an overzealous prosecutor, and the US beginning to apply its laws against foreign citizens in other countries.

    The US wasn't happy about other countries not respecting the embargo and sanctions against Iran (which was designed to put pressure on Iran for negotiation).

    The Chinese suspect this could be a politically targeted attack against Huawei, since the US wants to keep the telecom company out, both out of worry over competition with US telecom companies, and the potential for spying, since a Chinese telecom company providing communication services in the US could use that position for collecting data.
     
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    American or Canadian?
     
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    A US prosecutor.

    But keep in mind a Canadian judge had to be the one to automatically approve the extradition. (That might have been more about laziness and indifference than any specific malice)

    As noted in that link, the Canadian government did not even support these sanctions against Iran.
    But when you automatically arrest and extradite people at the request of another country, you are essentially doing that other country's bidding, whether or not you support their position.

    To say it another way, Canada's right hand did not know what its left hand was doing. On the one hand, Canada had made it clear they opposed these sanctions, but on the other hand, you have a Canadian judge ordering a foreign citizen to be arrested and sent to the US because she was alleged to have violated these US-imposed sanctions.
     
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    That is strange.

    I'll keep an eye on this story as it develops.
     
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    Why do you find it strange? Because you can't understand the motivations for this?
    Or because the law is being applied in a different way from the normal type of way people usually conceive of?

    The "technicality" they caught her on was that she used a US bank to clear the financial transaction. Even though it was just a routine financial transaction, on behalf of her company, and no money was stolen, and she could have just as easily have used a bank in any other country instead, without that transaction being considered "illegal".

    Furthermore, the company she had the money sent to was not specifically listed on a prohibited list, but US laws automatically makes it illegal if that company is not complying with US sanctions.
    In other words, since the law makes it illegal for a US bank to conduct business with any foreign company in another country that has business dealings with Iran, she was accused of "defrauding" the US bank, by leading them to facilitate a transaction with that foreign company, when the bank did not know that company was conducting business with Iran. She just used the US bank to move money from her company to the other company.

    And of course, she was not in the US. The companies that the money moved between were not in the US.
    What she did would have been perfectly normal in Canada or China, not illegal there.
     
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    Interactive timeline: The extradition case of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou

    https://biv.com/article/2020/04/interactive-timeline-extradition-case-huawei-cfo-meng-wanzhou

    The extradition case of Meng Wanzhou, CFO of Huawei Technologies, has severely damaged Canada's reputation with China and has put Canada in the middle of a high-stakes dispute between the U.S. and Beijing. How did it play out? Where did it begin? Click on each element of the interactive infographic below to review the key stories and in-depth analysis of all events.


    Gulag :flagcanada: ! Oh what would @zoom_copter66 say?
    Meng Wanzhou remains stuck in :flagcanada: since Aug. 22, '18.
    No speedy trial in :flagcanada: !


    Witness the timeline!



    There is FREE, like :flagus: :salute:
    Not Free like Russia & China
    and still there remains
    The UnFree like :flagcanada: who don't know better.
    Ain't it the truth.
     
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    And she’s not wearing a mask either..
     
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    After 2.25 years stuck in :flagcanada:
    a trial may not be needed after all :rolleyes:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/analysis-u-efforts-huawei-executive-024153025.html

    Analysis: U.S. efforts on Huawei executive case
    may save Canada's stalled China policy

    OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada could see the end of a nasty diplomatic dispute with China if the United States reaches a deal to release a Huawei executive from house arrest in Vancouver, but the affair shows that without the heft of its southern neighbor, Canada has no bargaining power with Beijing.

    Foreign policy experts said Canada would have to insist :roflol: the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump - which has not always had good relations with Ottawa - secure from China a guarantee it would release the Canadians as part of any deal
    .


    :flagcanada: detaining Meng Wanzhou proves
    Stupid Is As Stupid Does and so do
    :flagcanada:


    Moi
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-in...-about-resolving-criminal-charges-11607038179
    U.S. in Talks With Huawei Finance Chief Meng Wanzhou
    About Resolving Criminal Charges

    The U.S. Justice Department is discussing a deal with Huawei Technologies Co. finance chief Meng Wanzhou that would allow her to return home to China from Canada, in exchange for admitting wrongdoing in a criminal case that has strained Beijing’s relations with the U.S. and Canada, people familiar with the matter said. .
    .


    Don't Admit Nothin'

    FREE Meng Wanzhou
    incarcerated in :flagcanada: for years with no due process.
    Her admitting wrong doing now would be like an admission under duress!


    Moi
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    Does the brother of the Secretary of State of GA work for Huawei? ;-)
     
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    I may be a cuppa coffee low but

    what does the above have to do with the topic?


    Snark alert?
     
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    It has to do with the fact that Huawei Technologies Co will be "free at last" everywhere and very soon.
    The fix is in. ;-)
     
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    Meanwhile in
    :flagcanada:
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...hearing-canadian-border-officer-describes-how
    Senior Canadian border officer denies destroying
    Meng Wanzhou documents, rejecting concealment claims

    • Roslyn MacVicar, former Pacific chief of the border agency, also denied telling staff not to create documents about Meng for fear they would be made public
    • But a fellow officer earlier testified that MacVicar told her not to make a summary of Meng’s case, in case it was accessed under freedom-of-information laws

    Who would YOU believe?
    The boss or the worker. ;)


    C'est La Canada
     
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    :flagcanada: judge rules
    We Don't Need Confusion Of Evidence!


    https://news.yahoo.com/canada-judge-wont-allow-huawei-015604110.html

    Canada judge won't allow Huawei exec
    to submit new evidence
    July 9, 2021
    VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) — A Canadian judge has denied the request from a senior executive for Chinese communications giant Huawei Technologies to submit new evidence into her extradition hearing. . .

    Canada arrested Meng Wanzhou, Huawei’s chief financial officer who is also the daughter of the company’s founder, at the Vancouver airport on Dec. 1, 2018, at the request of the U.S. .
    . .


    Imagine being "detained" in :flagcanada:
    without the Right to A Speedy Trial



    Which Country Is more :flagus: cat's paw?
    Israel or :flagcanada: ?

    psst the correct answer is :flagcanada:


    Moi :oldman:




    FREE Meng Wanzhou!

     
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    IMO, crushing Huawei would be a good thing, but if the Canadian government has to violate due process to get it done then the government has become a greater threat than Huawei.
     
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    Why
    please
    Proof, not allegations ;)


    In a capitalist world they rose to the top.
    No affirmative action required.



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    Huawei is a large transnational corporation. IMO, they are all pond scum.
    They may be a necessary evil, but I am ready to make them prove it by shattering them.
     
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    ChiComm run coms-tech in the US will be used for spying. The question is- does that make Meng Wanzhou a spy?

    Ultimately I think no. But anyone making deals with her to use ChiComm run coms-tech in the US should be investigated as a ChiComm agent, and she and her company should be banned from US soil. I suspect she is the 'victim' (technically, though I dont use the label with any sympathy for her cause...) of the quiet war between those in CAN/US that arent loyal to the CCP and those that are.
     
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    Kind'a surprised the Chinese government hasn't "detained" a Canadian citizen or two in response....that's the usual procedure in these things, that they haven't yet probably means they have another plan.
     

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