Systematic Racism Can't Be Fixed Without Tackling It Within Cycling

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  1. Josh77

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    Haha, hearing black names repulses you? I think YOU are having issues with race.
     
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    How lame for Right wing racists spout out a pack of after a murder, desperately trying to whitewash tge actions of a killer cop (see? I can whitewash too!)

    Sadly for the liars, there is NO "robbery and aggravated assault after violently robbing and pistol whipping a pregnant woman", NO "trying to drive away jacked up on meth, fentanyl, and drunk!

    $20 of "passing counterfeit money"? Me too! But is that a killing offense?

    But i don't care if he had a far longer record than all of these fake crimes, Police should NOT kill without without just cahse, and shutting down the brain blood flow is killing someone, and the cop knew that. The other cops there KNEW that, and they lied too!

    If there had been no video, their murder would have been a success! Anerica does not need these kinds of people in charge of the lives of Americans.
     
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    Yeah sure. Whatever. That's why there's black lawyers, black leaders, black historians, black doctors, black judges... etc etc. All respected. Yes, I've seen those studies that you refer to. Know what they don't show? Why those black people didn't get a call back. They just assume. In fact they don't even know if that resume that was sent in was even seen, much less rejected because of a "black sounding name".

    In any case, know what your post didn't talk about? Why Asians have to score higher than blacks in order to get into a college of their choice. Why didn't you address that?
     
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    Guess what...those cops are being charged. So you really don't have jack to support the claim that blacks don't get justice with Floyd being an example.
     
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    There was full video. There was no way to cover it up after seeing video.

    Living him dead after they had released until the ambulance finally showed up? Smoke break time after killing? Yeah, feels good, right? That seems to be after some police like to wander around after a kill, like the 14yo Tamir Rice in the park even before police stopped, then walked around and watched him die.
     
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    Its not spouting when one can back their claims with facts. Something I never see from the liberal Democrats running the most racist cities. Here you go, I just debunked everyone of your statements.

    Since when is aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon an act of kindness?
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    LOLOL...do you recall when the Notre Dame cathedral burnt and BLM was pissed because the news took attention away from them?
     
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    Tamir Rice had a toy gun. That gun also looked exactly like a real gun. And he was pointed it at the cops as witnesses said and video showed. Maybe his parents should have taught him better than to point guns at other people. Real or toy.

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    As for the rest, name me a single case in the last 10 years where cops haven't been charged for murder in the killing of a black man. Note: It has to be a case where it wasn't justified. Putting forth cases like Tamir Rice won't do you any good.
     
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    Exactly!!! A mitigating factor was that Tamar was in a predominantly Black neighborhood pointing his “toy” firearm at passerby's. It was an African American that dialed 911 to report a Black male in the park pointing a gun at people.

    This police didn’t just drive up out of the blue. Law enforcement was specifically called to a man with a gun.
     
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    ""Social Justice": The Presumption of Guilt

     
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    I believe they call it "levelling the playing field." If we ever achieve the societal mindset that "it just doesn't matter" then we won't need those programs.

    Millions of white people voted for Obama because they liked him well enough and thought he would be a good president. It wasn't about race.

    OJ was exonerated because he had enough money to hire a crack legal team. It wasn't about race.

    I worked for many different employers over nearly 50 years and not once have any of the HR professionals with whom I became well acquainted complained about not being able to hire or fire anyone due to skin color. I know of no extreme corporate policies in that regard, nor of any great resentment towards coworkers of color.

    The majority of police killings are not white people, per capita. Blacks make up 13.4% of our population, so it stands to reason that even if shootings of whites add up to a bigger number, blacks are still disproportionately more likely to be killed by the police.

    https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/...ely-than-black-people-to-be-killed-by-police/

    George Floyd, warts and all, did not deserve to die for trying to pass a phony $20 bill. Did you not watch the video of his murder? If you did, did you feel nothing? You are victim-blaming. And what violent crimes has he committed? Got a link? Would all of his past crime add up to the death penalty?

    It has been proven over and over that black Americans still face discrimination in nearly all aspects of life, from housing to employment to healthcare.

    https://www.brookings.edu/topic/rac...MIl9n74q766gIVDr7ACh36XggQEAAYASAAEgKkE_D_BwE

    You claim that skin color doesn't matter to you, then you come back with the standard right wing racist rhetoric about racism. I think you are not being completely honest. I think you feel a lot of resentment towards black Americans.
     
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    You guys need a very large hunk of cheese wo go with that whine. You poor, downtrodden white men!

    https://www.brookings.edu/topic/rac...MIl9n74q766gIVDr7ACh36XggQEAAYASAAEgKkE_D_BwE
     
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    Who's selling you this propaganda and why are you buying it in spades? Can you give me examples of people not being hired because of their names. Obama told you that and you believed him.

    And don't preach to me about keeping women down. All a guy has to do is dress like a girl and the left will prefer him over a woman 7 days a week.
     
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    No it has not. What has been proven is that liberals will make the assertion above over and over again and never provide data that justifies it. You will not be able to prove your assertion other than to point to disparate outcomes and claim that is racism. That is an argument so ridiculous as to be beneath contempt.

    Systemic racism is only allowed against whites and Asians. It is happening in university admissions all over the United States as we speak and is beginning to spread to corporations. Nothing will kill a company faster over time than hiring based on race instead of competence, it is a kind of suicide.
     
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    Poor widdle white men, so oppressed! Such discrimination! No wonder you like Trump ... he whines about the slightest things all the time. I don't think there's enough cheese in Wisconsin to go with that endless whine from people with no real understanding of systemic racism.

    https://www.brookings.edu/topic/rac...MIl9n74q766gIVDr7ACh36XggQEAAYASAAEgKkE_D_BwE

    Appologies if I seem a bit touchy here, but with all due respect, if you can't "walk a mile in their shoes," then you really just don't understand. And it's sad to me how many users on this forum don't fully understand racism in America.
     
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    I want you race baiting liberals look up the phrase "self fulfilled prophecy"
    in the context of this thread what it means if you believe everything is racist everything becomes racist
     
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    and you are a prime example of the concept of self filled prophecy
    if you believe everything is racist everything becomes racist

    i will give you an example we had a store owner in the neighborhood i lived in in my early twenties and the store owner was a jerk it was a mostly minority neighborhood
    the blacks accused the store owner which is white to be a racist because of how he treated them but he treated me that same and I'm white he was just an all around jerk not a racist
    but because blacks are conditioned to believe anything that slights them is because of racism they looked for no other explanation as in this store owner was just a jerk to everyone
     
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    The reporting was even more amusing. Few MSM sources mentioned the gun looked real or that the red tip was removed. Most glosses over the details because “cop shoots innocent child” gets more clicks. What’s worse were all the people that thought this child was holding this bright yellow toy gun. It was fake news at its finest. Still a very sad event, but there’s a reason cops are on edge when they see a teen with a gun that looks real, out in the open.
     
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    Give the everything is racist a rest.
     
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    You are grossly misinformed. One of the jurors said she was going to acquit him from day one as payback for Rodney King.
     
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    You are more likely to be murdered by a black person than a cop or a white guy. What does the killer's profession have to do with it?
     
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    There are no jobs except volunteer jobs in the local bike club. But anybody at all can join, dues are cheap, and a black guy has held most, if not all, the high leadership positions -- because he is popular and very able and nice enough to do it.

    The best way to make money in cycling is most likely to open a custom frame shop, build your rep, and build it into a well known, large shop, the way the well known names started. Work hard.
     
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    Know what's ironic here? The only ones denigrating people because of their race in this thread are those that believe the BLM rhetoric is factual.
     
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    https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/9/18/16307782/study-racism-jobs
     

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