What Lockdown 2.0 Looks Like: Harsher Rules, Deeper Confusion

i’m no expert...take it up with them

but it seems like a odd place to start- i thought the point was to avoid getting it.

so your plan is to lock everyone down so they all get it??

 

How on Earth do you get to a fake site like dnyuz? I mean you must be on some sort of email chain right?

 

People usually get tested a day or two after symptoms appear, results taking another day. So your timeline shows that the masks most likely halted the rising cases, the opposite of what you suggest.

 

Well, because you brought up 'experts' and 'science', I thought you could provide your source. In looking, I found this:

The paper, published in the journal Science, concludes that a one-time lockdown will not be sufficient to bring the pandemic under control and that secondary peaks could be larger than the current one without continued restrictions.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...tancing-continue-until-2022-lockdown-pandemic

I have not found a single article stating that lockdowns spread the virus. To which experts were you referring?

 

did you not watch the hearing last week with the SG? the head of the NIH and head of CDC?

 

I didn't - perhaps you could point me to where they stated that lockdowns spread the virus, as was your claim.

 

hmmm

search this forum in the corona section. You will see a thread created by sec, a highly respected forum member on exactly that topic

 

Good grief Pants don't you get that there is no such thing as a real lockdown. Essentials must work, food must be purchased, somebody has to fix that electrical pole struck by lightning, somebody must take care of that family that got this virus. You can't lock the f'ing world down, it isn't feasible even in la la lefty land. Eventually people have to get out, eventually the virus will spread. Our lefty aussies on this board were bragging how great they did, now they've gone silent. This bad boy isn't going away, the only possible thing you can do is stay home as much as possible, social distance, wear a mask (questionable) and wash your hands. Just like Trump told the world early on, it's literally our only defense.

 

Thanks, but when I post a position - such as you did - I back it up with sources. I have no desire to scour through this forum to understand your post.

 

Not likely.

 

We have caught the Covidiots fudging the data repeatedly.
They have no credibility left.

"Colorado health officials on Friday changed how they count the number of people lost to the coronavirus outbreak in the state.

As a result, the state's stated COVID-19 death toll dropped by nearly 300 people who had contracted the virus but died of other causes that may or may not have been related to infection."
COLORADOAN, Did Colorado's coronavirus death toll really just drop by nearly 300? Here's what changed., By Eric Larsen, Editor, Fort Collins Coloradoan, May 16, 2020.
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/ne...-coronavirus-deaths-state-counted/5198485002/

 

Ok, that demands that your BLM card get pulled. One of the most egregiously insensitive to and AA citizen post I've ever seen.

 

I am well aware that this isn't going away anytime soon. But I do disagree with the effectiveness of lockdowns. I was in one for 3 months - with limited access to grocery stores (minimized hours and designated days for shopping). And it stopped the virus completely. Only when regulations were loosened or lifted did it reappear - and now, back to lockdown.

Yes - people still have interactions, but with lockdown protocols, those interactions are more limited and the rules of social distancing and masking are heightened. I stand by my belief that they work. We just have to be as diligent once they are lifted. We see too many people running around like drunken sailors when they have their freedom back!

 

My state locked up for 8 weeks. The minute we let foreigners in, as our state exited our lockdown, our cases went up. (foreigners, not of the state to include folks from other US states). So all those "essential folks" who stayed open, who continued to travel though the state didn't have much of an impact until they started showing up in our restaurants, or convenience stores, and the folks who had not bee exposed because they were locked down had no defenses. That really sounds like it was planned at this point.

 

you are talking to the wrong guy. You asked another poster a question and I replied to you telling you where to find it

you're welcome

or, feel free to be lazy and not search the forum

 

Would you like to know what happens to the immune system if it is not exercised?

Isolation is harmful to physical and mental health. There really is no dispute about this.
https://www.sciencealert.com/social-isolation-linked-to-higher-levels-of-inflammation-says-new-study#:~:text=Some researchers suggest that loneliness,experience psychological or social stress.
https://www.prospectmedical.com/resources/wellness-center/harmful-effects-social-isolation
https://www.kare11.com/article/news...ystem/89-9b0efa7f-a327-43b3-b661-189d164bb052
https://www.nhs.uk/news/mental-health/loneliness-may-affect-the-immune-system/

Everybody is damaged by social isolation. The effects range from catastrophic to moderate. To inflict this at the point of a government gun is tantamount to terrorism.

We went through our second round of layoffs this morning. Another 50 lives ruined.

If the Democratic states continue their lockdown, people need to rise up like they have in Germany to stop them. Nowhere in the law is it written that our government can shut down our businesses.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ainst-coronavirus-rules-divide-german-leaders

 

Obviously that hasn't proven to be true.

 

It's true in dozens of countries.

 

They worked just fine in a bunch of countries.

It will be a death sentence for a quarter million this year.

 

This has nothing to do with the conversation I was having with Struth. He said that experts suggested that the virus is spread, even with lockdowns.

Yes, I agree - mental and physical fitness is important for overall health. But again, nothing at all to do with the discussion I was having.

Also, it is stating the obvious that a great many people in this country do not exercise on a regular basis. So to suggest the lack of ability to do so - for them - is moot. And, there are a great many homebodies and introverts who are not affected at all by the isolation.

 

Quite right - sorry about that. And thanks for calling me lazy - nice way to end my afternoon. Hope you have a good one!

 

So why then was Trump and his minions seen in a crowded room and no one wearing a mask?

 

the statement was

feel free to be lazy and not search

your choice. I do not insult folks. Since I'm not a leftist, the forum rules are different for me.

 

No it isn't. That is all opinion.