Judge Denies Trump's Bid to Delay Defamation Suit From Woman Alleging Rape

AJ, you know I luv ya, but aren't you a the type of guy who would say if there's no video then it didn't happen?

 

I bet people with child pornography on their computer feel the exact same way. Though, not saying there is any correlation with the basis of your argument.

 

If you are not implying why even bring it up? Because you are apart or part of that mentality that child porn is okay? Your attempts to change the subject you think of most is noted.

 

Given that Trump's lawyers will stonewall it, and the 1/3 of America (that is Trump's base) will vote for him regardless, you may have a point.

The only obvious Epic FAIL (in your post) is the idea that Trump could still win the election.

That won't happen, Biden is a lock.

Also, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. So thanks for the props.

Just one thing:

You may want to consider adding one of these--> the next time that you attempt to mimic the Iconic Sui Generis Posting Style.

^Just a friendly suggestion.

 

Methinks you missed the point. You claim you have a "right to privacy" for taking illegal drugs.....or to be tested for them as a condition of employment. My point was that people with child porn could make the same argument that they have the same "right to privacy" while doing something illegally...and that convicting them was being "subjugated to the laws of fascism through corporate control of the state". In other words, just because someone feels they have a "right of privacy", that does not mean that they actually do. I was not saying that drug users have child pornography on their computers or that their was any correlation.

 

Yea so what? Some lied because they wanted to extort money from a rich guy, some lied because they wanted to extract money from TDS. Did any of them have proof? Did any of them lead to an arrest? Hell, did any of them even file police reports?!? NO! All they ever did was make claims and either file civil suits seeing 'damages' or run to the media seeking a book deal! Just a bunch of money grubbing liars. Scammers gonna scam, fools gonna fall for it.

 

How many people get tested for child porn to get a job?Derpa....

 

My work computer is scanned regularly....which is reasonable to detect improprieties while on the job. Just as drug testing to detect people under the influence on the job is reasonable....especially if a person's drug use could harm the health of other workers.

 

Then even if trump was guilty, he would be smart to hand over his DNA.... right?

 

careful, I got reported for saying that, a poster claimed their wife had just passed away, so best not to use that phrase, you never know what other posters are going through in their lives

 

1: The half life of DNA is hundreds of years. Forensics has put away murderers from decades past based on "new" DNA evidence. Has Trump really claimed not to have met her

2: Depends on where that DNA came from - B Clinton

3: Her wearing the dress after the incidence has no bearing on whether Trump's DNA is still on the dress. Even washing clothes may not remove all traces.

4: Proving guilt is why they have asked for Trump's DNA. Rape suspects are always asked for their DNA. Rape is an unusual charge in that the suspect is often required to prove their innocence in the opening stages of the case before it goes to court

BUT why is she making the claim now? Has she make the allegation before?

 

Why?

 

That is using DNA samples that have been contained in ideal conditions. Not skin particles on a dress kept in a closet.

Her wearing the dress contaminates the evidence. Washing the dress will also contaminate the evidence.

To demand a DNA sample they would need much more than "because she said so" reason. They would also need an uncontaminated piece of evidence with a clear chain of evidence to compare to. After 25 years, using any potential skins cells deposited on a dress 25 years ago...a dress that was worn in public at least once...does not really meet that burden. If there is more compelling evidence to warrant a DNA sample from trump, then sure. While there certainly could be more to this case than what was released to the public, based on what we do know, this is looking to be more of a clown court than a court of law.

 

well if the dna could not be determined to be a match, then he has nothing to lose... course if it is a match.....

 

Unless I've gotten something wrong, it looks like a civil defamation suit. Presidents aren't immune to those. You apparently think that holding the President to the rule of law is "attacking the office of the president," though I'm sure you'll change your tune the moment a dem is in office.

 

So you believe a citizen should be required or be willing to give up their DNA? Isn't that a bit Authoritarian? I guess some people are quickly willing to give up their freedoms.

 

Looks like Trump has at least two rape accusations against him (and around 20 total sexual misconduct claims of some kind). Biden has one. If Trump wants to claim it was consensual, he can, but his argument so far has been that nothing happened at all.

 

Are you indicating Trump was on the wrong side of a decision in a court of law??

My shocked face



I think it's been almost a clean sweep in 2020...

 

It would not matter if the sample is contaminated. Evidence in rape cases are often contaminated especially when someone is jumped upon in a dark alley or such like. Contamination does not remove a suspects DNA. If Trump has stated that he does not know her then his DNA, presumably sperm being the evidence, cannot be on the clothing. Skin particles cannot be the evidence presented to show rape

Just seen that the evidence is sperm.....sperm DNA is quite resilient

 

Without DNA evidence no one would ever be convicted of rape. Going by your reasoning, all rape suspects could refuse to give DNA sample and would then escape any punishment

 

Shouldn't be that hard to get Trump's DNA... You can get DNA from fingerprints and he requires all 10 fingers to hold a single glass of water...

 

I'm not sure how legal that is...

 

That's a great point... Ordinarily I'm opposed to bringing up assaults/rapes etc 25 years after the fact, but if it can be 100% proven via DNA, that puts it in a different category.

 

I was thinking the same thing.
Except, I don’t love him.

 

Probably not... Besides, I'd much rather see him swabbed....

I was reading more on this ... This is the case where his lawyers sought to have it thrown out of a NY court for jurisdiction because Trump doesn't live there anymore. But then he went on a public conference call with governors and announced he lived in Manhattan and the lawyers had to withdraw that filing.

What a hoot...