Portland sees peaceful night of protests following withdrawal of federal agents

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  1. Gatewood

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    I like the fact that the only reason that the Dem Party mayor was concerned was that it translated as bad publicity for the Dem Party.
     
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    That woman is clearly a federal agent, and she's provoking those peaceful protesters.
     
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    Democrat Senators refuse to accept left-wing violence with rioters co-opting BLM protesters. Essentially condoning it, or at least, refusing to address it.

     
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    They don't want to repeat the government's violence in the Sixties.

    I'd like my reality without a river of blood, thanks...................
     
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    So, have you officially given up on the false notion that Portland has become a bastion of peace and tranquility now that Trump's stormtroopers are gone, or are you still clinging to the narrative like a dog with a bone?
     
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    By doing absolutely nothing? How does that stop the violence which is already happening??? They are encouraging it by ignoring it.
     
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    Go ahead, now tell me you don't consume Right wing kookiness...
     
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    I consume left- and right-wing media. Do you only consume left wing kookiness? If so, you only get half the "news", leaving you half-ignorant.
     
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    This OP and article aged like milk. Portland's leftist mayor even said the rioters were "attempting to commit murder."
     
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    What would they want to do that for?
     
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    I kept listening for the shotgun.
     
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    At this point, I think that's the only thing that will correct these miscreants' behavior.
     
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    Professor Turley is a very smart man. Quotes from an article published this week by The Hill:

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    While I oppose designating antifa as a terrorist organization, its existence is certainly not a myth. Indeed, it may be the most successful movement against free speech in modern history.

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    Antifa has found allies while the movement has grown. It primarily targets conservatives and the free speech community, so it has not been a major concern of liberals.

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    That fact is that antifa works to strike fear not in the heart of Trump but in the heart of anyone who will oppose the movement. The antifa handbook states how the group has rejected the idea of free speech and has spent years organizing protests to prevent opposing views from getting heard. Antifa violence can give colleges or politicians cover for barring conservative speakers. Nancy Pelosi has called for the revocation of a permit for a conservative prayer group viewed as a security matter in San Francisco.

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    But it [Antifa] is winning mostly since people remain silent. Silence hurts free speech. Antifa knows that. It is the silence of professors who watch as their colleagues are harassed, investigated, or threatened. It is the silence of students who watch as others are attacked for dissenting ideas. It is the silence of reporters who watch as other journalists are fired or forcibly retired for challenging orthodox views. Finally, it is the silence of those politicians who dismiss the destruction of property as a case, in the words of Pelosi, that “people will do what people will do.”

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    Antifa has achieved the agenda against free speech to a degree that even critics like me never imagined possible. It simply took inaction from our government and silence from our citizens. Threats against free speech are reaching a critical mass in our schools and on our streets. We can either take action or remain passive bystanders to what inevitably comes next.


    Full article: https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-r...atest-movement-against-free-speech-in-america
     
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    That's an old political trick. Bust heads to distract people from your failure to prevent it, and from your failure to manage things properly.
     
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    A little history..

    After WW2 people were terrified. That cannot be overstated. In Europe, they locked down Right wing groups way worse than we ever did. They had damn good reason to, in the era immediately following WW2.

    IOW, anyone pinning this entirely on Antifa, either doesn't know what he is talking about, or he is lying to make a buck.

    I actually argued against that, with Europeans.

    I am also a member of the ACLU, that fought in court for the right of Nazis to peacefully assemble. I am currently having second thoughts about that.

    Republicans are trying hard, by means both fair and foul, to turn Antifa into a bogeyman...

    They are not.

    There is a discussion to be had about their making the names of extremists public knowledge.
     
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    I am amazed that after having their ass handed to them with quotes from a far leftie mayor admitting the "peaceful protestors" tried to commit murder some posters will still dig in their heels and cling to their own ignorance. Do you ever question why that is?
     
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    Nope, I remember the Sixties, and I don't share your eagerness to shed blood.
     
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    "They are not real." Because you are not a conservative. But they are already coming for Classical Liberals. How long will you remain silent? Think you will be the last in line?

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    gotta love leftists. Attack anyone who disagrees with them. This OP is pathetic partisan hackery
     
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    The failure in Portland is all local, much as that in NYC and Minneapolis and it's a Democrat failure to keep order.
     
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    To make peaceful protestors into rioters. I've said for a long time this is where most of these 'riots' come from. I think most of "Antifa" are right-wing toughs recruited and paid for by the Kochs et al. I think these Federal police are just Trump's contribution to that "movement"

    Turn the question around, why would peaceful protestors riot? If they just wanted to loot stores and burn buildings for no reason why haven't they done so before?
     
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    Who said "they are not real"??

    Love the paranoia, but I've seen the real thing in a number of countries...
     
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    ~ That was the purpose of sending in federal police. They did their job. Protesters know they will be back if necessary.
     
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    Things got worse steadily while they were there...

    Not only did the guv, the mayor and members of Congress complain, Republicans did as well, if quietly.
     
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    You said they are not "boogeymen". They are real and they are dangerous. You think it can't happen in America?
     

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