Why do blacks vote for democrats over 90% of the time?

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  1. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Is there any study that shows 90%+ of that one small demographic votes that way? I am asking a question about a pretty significant number of Americans, a lot of which range from highly educated to high school drop outs. From rich to poor. Male and female. But I get you not having an answer to my question so you present a red herring.
     
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    Sad but true. Worse then Jews in USSR.
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    No, it wasn't republicans that started in on claims of affairs or misdeeds, that was the left wing media when those two rose to the top of republican polls.
     
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    The economy is usually the driving factor for ANY voter.
    As I said, I gave you a statistically probable answer and you ignored it, just as I said you would.

    Historically Black Americans have fared better economically under Presidents who were Democrat. Ain't rocket science, dude.

    Historically, very few Black Americans have fared well under the Republican Party banner. There is only one black Republican in
    Congress. There are no Black Republican Governors. Republicans don't back their Black candidates in the primaries very often.
    Why should they support a party that really doesn't want them in office?
     
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    You asked a question.
    People responded.
    You posted to ask for "good" answers.

    Why not post and add "Tell me what I want to hear"?
     
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    People like you considered him well tanned along with his well tanned family?
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    No, they didn't. It wasn't till 2000 the south voted consistently for a GOP president. The state governors pretty much stayed democrat till 2000 time frame as well. The capital cities are still ran by democrats since 1876. This "change" you speak of didn't happened at the same time, it took almost 2 generations of people coming and going to switch over to another party. And all the politicians stayed in the democrat party sans 2.
     
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    I'm sorry. I didn't realize you had lost all your fingers.
     
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    Hmm... We have a lot of diversity in my neighborhood. The only limiting factor is income.
    The only folks I know who refer to the "group" as lazy or thugs are usually democrats, making an assertion. If you want to talk about behavior being thugs, look no further than rap, who refer internally to themselves in this way
    What difficulty do minority voters encounter? Show some work here.
    What grievances are currently relevant? We aren't discussing 150 years ago. For those who are minorities who come recently to this country, they don't seem to share your opinions.
    I'd wonder why democrats repeatedly refer to the monolithic black community like Biden did who even went so far as to suggest that black folks who don't vote for him aren't actually black. That seems pretty pejorative, almost like they are in Biden's mind owned or something...
    Did Biden suddenly become black?
    On the culture war, why do you insist that folks must maintain some colloquial culture to feel value? Do you find that isolating folks from Italy from those from Ireland is a successful strategy?
    Democrats were the folks who put those symbols and statues up through time. Only recently have they tried to ignore this history. For those of us on the right, taking them down simply absolves democrats of their historic abuse of AAs.
    Or a party that denigrates your heroes like John Wayne....

    You sound angry.....
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    I'm adopting your, and several others of your co posters here seemingly endless demands for you to do the work for me. It seems convenient. Since you asserted the validity of your single graph.
     
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    Why

    Benefits of the
    Democratic Welfare Plantation System

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    Didn't happen. Many blacks live in the suburbs, almost 30% currently. Try again.
    "Them"? Are you generalizing something cause I hear nothing about the GOP claiming ALL blacks are thugs or lazy. Or are you thinking of Hillary claiming they are super criminals?
    For everyone, sure. But it also leads to people, especially blacks, showing up more often and in greater numbers to vote.
    Depends on the subject really. Anything specific you want to claim here so we can dispense with generalizations? I mean, when you think police are oppressing blacks and minorities, the left thinks defunding the police is the answer blacks are calling for, when in actuality 80% of blacks say to keep the funding. But white leftist just dismiss what blacks actually say.
    Who says that? That's never been a talking point Ive heard.
    How so? Herman Cain and Ben Carson and Tim Scott and Allen West seemed to have no problems. But are you saying blacks are more interested in voting for someone based on the color of their skin?
    What culture? Whites have many types of "cultures". Is there only one "culture" for blacks? No wonder why Joe thinks blacks aren't diverse. Or are you saying when Sanders said they should legalize drugs so blacks and latinos can have jobs, that was how the left views minorities and theyre correct?
    The party did that? Huh, is that why the GOP was the one to change the flags of MS, GA, and SC when they had power? Have democrat mayors pulled down those symbols in their cities?

    So, a lot of generalizations and no specifics? Cool. The majority of your "issues" that you put out there trying to speak for blacks all seem to be social and not fiscal. If the statues are gone, does the economical mobility start up then?
     
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    Republicans, other than Trump, seldom offer any significant alternative to DP government subsidies and corrupt boondoggles that barely allow poor black Americans to subsist as impoverished serfs for DP party bosses.
    Republicans have been effectively indifferent to the suffering of black Americans living under the rule of racist DP government since the failure of Reconstruction.

    “Both of them have sold us out, both parties have sold us out. Both parties are racist, and the Democratic Party is more racist than the Republican Party.” BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992.

    Trump is the first RP president to give black Americans good reasons for supporting him.
    The RP should offer even more - asap.
     
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    The very anti-establishment Trump has given black Americans good reasons to rebel against the DP party bosses who have worked against their interests.

    "n the House of Representatives, there are 257 who are Democrats; only 177 are Republican. In the Senate there are 67 Democrats; only 33 are Republicans. The Party that you backed controls two-thirds of the House of Representatives and the Senate, and still they can’t keep their promise to you, ’cause you’re a chump."
    SHADOWPROOF.COM, MALCOLM X: “DON’T BE A CHUMP”, By Jane Hamsher, 26/8/2009.
    https://shadowproof.com/2009/08/26/malcolm-x-dont-be-a-chump/
     
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    Ever ask yourself how it is that blacks get control of the aforementioned cities? Largely due to white flight. Meaning the cities are economically depressed when blacks take over, not because blacks take over.

    Exactly how do you think state and local officials who are black can overcome the kind of systemic racism that has lead to the impoverishment of many blacks?

    Instead of asking why do blacks keep voting for Dems why not ask, "what can I do to change the conditions in this country that lead to so much economic inequality?"
     
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    The Republicans were in severe turmoil at their 1964 convention, where moderates and conservatives battled for control of the party. Ultimately, the conservatives secured the nomination of Sen. Barry M. Goldwater, who lost by a landslide to Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson, Kennedy’s vice president and successor. By 1968 the party’s moderate faction regained control and again nominated Nixon, who narrowly won the popular vote over Hubert H. Humphrey, Johnson’s vice president. Many Southern Democrats abandoned the Democratic Party to vote for the anti-integration candidate George C. Wallace. Importantly, the 1964 and 1968 elections signaled the death of the Democratic “Solid South,” as both Goldwater and Nixon made significant inroads there. In 1964, 5 of the 6 states won by Goldwater were in the South; in 1968, 11 Southern states voted for Nixon and only 1 voted for Humphrey.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Republican-Party
     
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    Come on man, Uncle Joe said it best just a few days ago.
    “Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community, with incredibly different attitudes about different things,” Biden said.


    Oh and BTW, Uncle Joe isn't a racist just ask him.
     
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    Trump is a modern-day Malcolm X. You really wanna go with that?
     
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    There is no other Malcom X, and Malcom X is the "modern-day" Malcolm X.

    Trump is just the first president for over a hundred years to start reversing some of the systemic institutional racist policies that have been directed toward the destruction of the black American community, culture and family.

    "We want freedom now, but we’re not going to get it saying "We Shall Overcome". We’ve got to fight until we overcome.

    A segregated school system produces children who, when they graduate, graduate with crippled minds. In areas where the government has proven itself either unwilling or unable to defend the lives and the property of Negroes, it's time for Negroes to defend themselves. Article number two of the constitutional amendments provides you and me the right to own a rifle or a shotgun. It is constitutionally legal to own a shotgun or a rifle.

    If the white man doesn’t want the black man buying rifles and shotguns, then let the government do its job.
    The question tonight, as I understand it, is "The Negro Revolt, and Where Do We Go From Here? or What Next?" In my little humble way of understanding it, it points toward either the ballot or the bullet."
    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Malcolm_X
     
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    Obama Care got insurance for 30% of African Americans that didn't have any. It would have been higher had some of the Republican governors not blocked the Medicaid expansion.
    Not to mention the Republican push to kill it. Time well spent, I think.
     
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    Holy moly man, those same folks have to have an ID to get ANY assistance, including social security, medicaid/medicare, etc. You cannot be serious at this point. In fact, you aren't serious, and this is just the "excuse" that blinds the feckless followers in the democratic party to reality.
     
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    I would consider him black. I am just saying that to some here a person's race depends on the political gain to be had.
     
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    Link to source.

    As noted, all Americans choose party affiliations or none based upon personal preferences.

    Why do so many older, less-educated, White male evangelicals choose Trumpery while most Americans of a wide variety of demographic indexes do not?

    Apparently, they believe in the agenda of Trumpery despite all the rational reasons not to - as is their right.
     
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    You asked for reasons I gave you some and you then say well those aren't really reasons. Several points: the current Republican President just did away with a fair housing policy loudly cheered by his Republican supporters. One doesn't have to say that ALL of any group are thugs or lazy in order to upset a group, Blacks show up to vote in large numbers because people try to keep them from doing so why would that be a benefit for the people who try to keep their vote down. Compare pictures of the lasr congress and see if you notice a difference between the parties. Are social issues irrelevant and only fiscal issues relevent? If so I am sure you will be willing to accept abortions for all and throw in gun control to boot.
    You want to argue you really didn't really want honest answers. You just wanted to fault Blacks for not voting the way you think they should and not fault the way Republicans approach the issue. This might be another reason that it is difficult for Republicans to attract Black voters
     

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