Biden: Illegal Immigrants Should Have Access To The Same Benefits “Everyone Else Has Access To"

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  1. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    That is what govt. does....Were you born yesterday?
     
  2. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    Then stop supporting the businesses that hire illegals.
     
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    I don’t know a single professional human being who owns or runs anything, who thinks ILLEGALS SHOUD get the same benefits and rights as citizens. The ONLY people I know who even mention it are single leftists who still live like they’re in college and have a distorted view of how business operates. They don’t own anything. They don’t employ anyone. They have no children or serious relationships. They’re over grown children who look like adults.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Complete BS. Illegal immigrants deal in cash and have an unfair advantage over legal businesses. In front of my gym, there is the street taco lady. Her and her 2 kids operate free of the burdens legitimate businesses deal with.

    Sales tax
    Payroll tax
    Labor laws
    Department of health certification
    Commercial real estate rental
    Workers comp
    Federal taxes
    State taxes
    City taxes
    business taxes
    Insurance

    Since she is in CA, she also gets free health care and a Covid relief check.
     
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    Here we go again. Biden telling illegal aliens to vote.
     
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    You beat me. I’ve heard of a number of examples of such people. Also, they pay through consumer taxes as well. Of course, I’m not trying to imply consumer tax is generally equal to income tax, just pointing it out as another example.
     
  7. After-Hour Prowler

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    We will be picking up the tab for millions of illegals to get a free ride on the ACA “Obama-care”
     
  8. straight ahead

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    And how exactly is the average citizen "supporting the businesses that hire illegals"? By patronizing restaurants that may have illegals working in the kitchen? Is there a big sign saying, "Come on in, we have illegals working here?"

    No, the non-enforcement is on the liberal side who want more money for welfare for illegals, and above all, want them to vote. True conservatives want the laws enforced.

    Joe Biden is reading what his liberal handlers are putting in front of him.
     
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    How many? Sounds like a good way to round them up.
     
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    I'm glad someone else caught that. I guess we need to create another term "undocumented unemployed".
     
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    Where are all the democrats to defend this?
    @Lee Atwater
    @Patricio Da Silva
    Please give us your take on this policy that Biden is promoting, or did you forget that POLICIES are part of POLITICS?
     
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    I'm for anyone who pays into the system benefiting from the system. If they pay taxes like you and I, then they deserve what everyone else gets.

    OR, if you don't want them to benefit from the same system, then exempt them from taxes.

    One or the other. But no one should be treated unfairly IF they are allowed to say and work here.

    So, the issue is, if you won't want them to benefit from the system, then deport them, but before you do, note the following:

    There is a shortage of labor in farms, and Trump's immigration policy is the source of the problem.

    If you don't like illegals, then make them legal, end of problem. Oh, now we get to the real issue, "you don't want them here".

    That's the real issue, right? Of course it is. The real problem here is republican insanity on the subject of immigration, we get it, you don't like brown people.
     
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    So, how long have they been paying taxes? Me, it's been 35+ years, and going strong. Maybe 10 years of paying in and the use of a valid social security number specifically issued to them, and I might consider it.

    Other than that, they have committed identity theft (Class B Felony) and should not be eligible for anything other than an escort to the nearest US border. Those that outstay their visa, same rules.
     
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    I suppose when you don't have a strong position, call people a racist! Never mind that you are the only one referring to skin color.
     
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    Illegals are LITERALLY citizens!!! :angered:

    Vote Democrat 2020
     
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    so how is that statement logical? that's like saying if you don't like burglars, give them your stuff, then its a gift instead of robbery. Nice logic there! What part of the word ILLEGAL do you not understand?
     
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    No. Government is supposed to collect money from everybody to pay everybody's shared expenses for everybody's benefit.

    Your snide juvenile comment ignored.
     
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    Have you been through a Home Depot parking lot lately?

    They aren't all coming here working for companies. They are coming here to try and find a job. Many can't. I know that's not convenient to your anti-corporate views.

    That doesnt change the fact that policies that reward them encourage more of the same.
     
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    similar to : “not all Democrat Congressman are actually working”
     
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    Well, the next time your daughter out of high school, pays taxes for 6 months, has a debilitating accident where she must collect SSI, you'll tell the government only give her 6 months worth benefits. You on board with that? That is the logic you are using.

    Many of them, have been her a long time, but it's irrelevant, because paying taxes is not about a bank account with a sum of money in it where you only get back what you put in.

    It's similar to insurance. If you bought insurance, and only had it for a month, and a catastrophe happens, you sure as hell didn't pay enough
    to receive a million dollar brain surgery operation. Insurance works because it's a collective effort.

    Taxes are the same way, it's a collective effort, not you put money in and you're not allowed to get back more than what you put in, that's insanity, that' not how taxes work.

    Some people never pay taxes because they are poor, yet a civilized society, this society, deems it's the right thing to do to take care of those who cannot care for themselves

    It's precisely that kind of transactional thinking that drives the right.

    Your thinking isn't rational, it's emotional. This is why we need to remove republicans in positions of power, because they think transactionally, emotionally, and not rationally.
     
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  21. Moonglow

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    Yeah, you think that those illegals in the chicken plants just got lost and found their way to the workstation.
     
  22. Moonglow

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    They damn sure do the rich and powerful, cha-ching.
     
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    Do you know if she is married?
     
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    Not only that but turn them in to the IRS and INS. The IRS used to pay a 10% bounty for turning in tax cheats. I got enough to buy a good used Bass boat and trailer.
     
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    No, I'm sure current illegal workers received a stipend for bringing more on board.
     

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