Are you worried about election manipulation?

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Are you worried about election manipulation?

  1. I'm voting Trump, and I'm worried about election manipulation flipping the results.

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  2. I'm voting Biden, and I'm worried about election manipulation flipping the results.

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  3. I'm voting 3P, and I'm worried about election manipulation flipping the results.

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  4. I'm voting Trump, and I'm not worried about election manipulation flipping the results.

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  5. I'm voting Biden, and I'm not worried about election manipulation flipping the results

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  6. I'm voting 3P, and I'm not worried about election manipulation flipping the results.

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fraud, tampering, intimidation, ballot stuffing, etc have all been cited as worries by both sides, and all have historically been documented to be perpetrated by both sides. Just rarely if ever to a degree that actually flipped an election.

    How worried are you about it for Nov 2020?
     
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    I think this might count as election manipulation. It has now been reported that the lawyer representing Trump's campaign in the lawsuit against a small Wisconsin TV station is the SAME lawyer who filed Kanye West's papers to get on the ballot in Wisconsin. Hmmmmm
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That doesn't undermine anyone's vote. It may be an underhanded tactic, if anyone is indeed pulling Kanye's strings, but its not the sort of manipulation Im referring to in the OP where the Will of The People is obfuscated or subverted.
     
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    Not worried at all. I'm so carefree that I don't plan to vote.
     
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    Okay, well what about the USPS? Their plans appear to be directly related to election manipulation. A series of memos distributed to employees by the new postmaster general (appointed by Trump), read:

    “Overtime will be eliminated…If the plants run late they will keep the mail for the next day,” reads an internal memo reviewed by Fortune. “If we cannot deliver all the mail due to call offs or shortage of people and you have no other help, the mail will not go out.”

    Another memo, entitled, “Pivoting for Our Future,” warns that “one aspect of these changes that may be difficult for employees is that—temporarily—we may see mail left behind or mail on the workroom floor or docks, which is not typical.” But, the memo explains, “this is a critical time for us, when decisive, quick, and meaningful action is needed.” The mail left behind would presumably be delivered at a later date, though the document doesn't clearly state that.
    https://fortune.com/2020/07/24/usps-mail-delivery-postmaster-general-louis-dejoy-us-postal-service/
     
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    I worry about the the reaction to overblown reports of election fraud causing an explosion of violence
    from both sides of the debate.

    If Biden wins by less than 10 million votes, there will be violence from the right.

    If Trump wins with only the Electoral College votes and not both the College and popular vote this time, there will be violence from the left.

    The two party system has come down to the Hatfields vs. the McCoys. We really, really need a viable third
    party in this country.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Their plans, according to your article, (and imo common sense) are simply to match their speed of delivery capabilities with their manpower and budgetary limitations. They simply arent equipped to handle the entire nation voting by mail (or being quarantined, apparently). This could be an example of election manipulation, but those doing the manipulating would be those expanding vote-by-mail without first expanding the mail itself to accomodate for it.
     
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    I am not concerned with any kind of voting problems. I will accept whatever the Electoral College decides. :democrat::gop:
     
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    No doubt Broward county Florida has already got extra boxes of Biden votes ready to be found at the last minute

    so.. be seeing you all from all over the USA here in Tallahassee ... AGAIN heh
     
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    Ballot harvesting is out of control here in Colorado since they made it perfectly legal. I recall going to bed on election night and Hickenlooper was behind by 30,000 votes with Boulder being the only county not counted yet by 10pm, imagine that, wake up and he wins by 50,000 or so. What a coincidence, Boulder where they ballot harvest thousands of ballots sent to colleges. The dems have it down to a science here.
     
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    Are you worried about election manipulation?

    If you can do something about it, do it. If you cannot do anything about it, worry won't help. I have no control at all over it. I will adapt to whomever wins or probably wins.
     
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    Please talk a dozen Democrats into doing likewise.
     
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    Democrats have been conducting election fraud regularly since at least 1948 (Texas). Now, the numbers are much larger, and the stakes are much greater. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past today's radical, America-hating Democrat Party....
     
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    So when they lose, do they blame the postal union which endorsed Biden? Or did Donald Trump personally empty those ballot collection boxes so the Party of Whine didn't win?
     
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    This.

    At the worst, the Kanye thing is an underhanded tactic, but people can still choose to vote for Biden rather than Kanye... It is not undermining anyone's vote in any way.
     
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    If they lose, they'll try to tie it up in federal courts forever. Wait and see!
     
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    So let's just throw up our hands?
     
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    Did I read what I said? If you can do something about it, then do it. If you can't then worry won't help. Where did I throw up my hands?
     
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    Normally I wouldn't have any concerns about the vote. But after the past four years watching Democrats blow thru all lines of restraint and civility, I really don't trust them. For gosh sakes, they tried to frame the President for a crime that didn't exist, so as to reverse an election. When that failed they whipped their civilian shock troops into a lawless, riotous frenzy, and are pretending that it isn't happening. They want carte blanche to corrupt not only themselves but to drag the entire nation down with them.
     
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    I believe the Electoral College should NOT be used in the 2020 Presidential election.
    The election should be decided by popular vote only.
     
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    Now, I've changed my mind. I want the election to be decided by popular vote.:)
     
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    Fine, Moriah... but you're getting an awfully late start in AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION in order to get rid of the Electoral College....
    That is, uh, ya know, like, NECESSARY and everything.... :roll:

    I'll let you go now -- you've got a lot of work to do, and not much time left to do it.... :lol:
     
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    Better late than never. :afro:
     
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    It is being manipulated now. Trump in every speech is sowing mistrust in our electoral system. It's rigged BS.
     
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