Beirut explosion shatters windows across Lebanese capital

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  1. Jeannette

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    Right now in Lebanon there are violent clashes between police and protesters over what happened, and there is fear that it could lead to another ethnic (religious?) conflict similar to Syria. Will Hezbollah get the damn hell out of that country and leave the people alone.

    In the meantime, Syria has opened its borders and is sending help wherever it can, and Russia as usual, was the first to respond with 5 plane loads of help. It seems they're prepared or these kind of emergences.

    Oh yeah, and we're prepared too. We'll probably add another sanction. :roll:
     
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    It looks like Lebanon has not decided whether it was caused by an outside source using something like a bomb.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-53698564

    When they thought things could not get any worse, they did.

    We seem to have thought Lebanon had decided there was no outside interference because she had not suggested any. Looks like she has just caught her breath enough to arrange for this to be looked into.
     
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    Hizbula destroys Lebanon.
    This is Hizbula warehous holding weapon materials that decimated half of Bairuth.
    But Iran does not care, as long as its pet, Hizbala, is doing its bids, Iran is ready to sacrifice every man, woman and child of Lebanon.
     
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    It is not impossible they are taking Woogs rocket seriously.



    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-l...rnal-interference-in-port-blast-idUKKCN2531F3

     
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    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1319953/Lebanon-explosion-news-Emmanuel-Macron-Beirut-latest

    It looks like they are going to do their best to avoid outside interverence that is not just genuine help. I heard Macron was talking about neo liberalism. Austerity would go down so well with people including children who do not have enough to eat, never mind a home to live in.
     
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    Funny the BBC would say they would look into it themselves, because according to Greek pronews, the President of Lebanon asked Macron for satellite photos to see if a missile was involved. He also said that if he couldn't get it from Macron, he would ask for other foreign help - probably Russia, since they are not obligated to Nato or anyone else.
     
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    They have on twitter with their own video of it which they say they took.

    Snoops though has a different video than Woogs which they say is fake.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/b...owed a missile caused this catastrophic event.

    That being said I was hearing last week that Snoops is funded by the Democratic Party and on political things cannot be trusted for accuracy. :;)

    Anyway it appears Lebanon does see the need to see if there is any evidence of outside interference so they have not yet come to their decision as to the cause of the explosion and to be frank that is what any country would do.
     
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    In July 2019, at the quarterly meeting on the Middle East, Ambassador Danny Danon told the UN Security Council that Israeli services had revealed evidence that the Iranian Quds Force has been using the port of Beirut since 2018 to transport items to Hezbollah.

    "During the years 2018-2019, Israel found that dual-use items (!) (Ss." Dual use items "ie materials that can have peaceful and military use, such as ... ammonia nitrate) are smuggled to Lebanon "to advance Hezbollah's rocket and missile capabilities, " Danon said.

     
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    Why would anyone need to doctor the video if it already showed what they were claiming? photoshopped is the answer. There were several videos released within hours of the event and none show a missile
     
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    We all know that Israel basically considers anything associated with Iran a target. Just look at what Israel does often in Syria.

    That doesn't mean that Israel did this, but it puts it in the realm of possibility, using their own words.
     
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    I'm sure Israel did it, and to be honest I'm getting a little sick of Hezbollah and Iran. What damn business do either one of them have being in Lebanon or in Syria? Why don't they just get the hell out of there? Enough is enough!
     
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    That might turn out to be true but it should be analyzed to be sure.

    Maybe they were from perspectives from where the smoke from the fire blocked the missile.

    An enemy of Israel would want to make Israel look bad in the eyes of the world.
     
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    The snoops video of the possible rocket frankly was laughable. Woogs was the only one I saw that looked impressive. No one who would be expected to say something about these rockets if they were genuine has called them anything but photoshop. Indeed in the video below there is some question that the photoshop may have been to pretend it was Hezbollah!!!!!!!!!!! - or probably that is just the way she put it talking of the bizarre things those trying to gain something from Lebanon's loss are up to.

    Video by an intellectual and activist in Lebanon explaining the situation and what they are up against.



    The Government has to do an inquiry into all possibilitities as at the moment from what I hear the Fireworks are just circumstantial evidence. Strong maybe but all Governments must look at all possibilities before coming to their decision on something as tragic as has happened to the country of Lebanon.
     
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    The solution is quite simple it was a gift from god!

    Former Israeli Member of the Knesset Moshe Feiglin gleefully hailed yesterday’s devastating explosion in Beirut as a “gift” from God in time for the Jewish festival Tu B’Av.

    Feiglin posted on Facebook that he thanked God that the deadly blast took place in Beirut, and claimed it was just in time for Tu B’Av, which is a festival of love, and in modern times has become a romantic Jewish holiday for dancing, handing out flowers and singing.

    “Today is Tu B’Av, a day of joy, and a true and huge thank you to G-d and all the geniuses and heroes really (!) who organized for us this wonderful celebration in honor of the day of love.”

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200805-ex-israel-mk-declares-lebanon-blast-as-gift-from-god/
     
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    Deleted duplicate post.
     
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    The fact that it is indeed a 'gift from God' for the United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia and so on is why it is more than understandable to have doubts and why the Government must conduct a full investigation 'just in case' - although which ever country it was a full investigation looking at all possibilities would be in order..
     
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    You'll have to prove you're a human after you click on this link.
    https://thewashingtonsentinel.com/m...ses-questions-about-devastating-beirut-blast/

    It has the same video that's in post #185. It has this note about the video.

    ----------------------------------------------------
    The explosion, as filmed from a boat with inverted colors out on the port waters, is amazing. Watch missile come in on first and second view angle from top left. Note there is controversy over this video, we leave it to the viewer to make their own judgement as to a nuke, no nuke, missile, or no missile.
    ----------------------------------------------------


    These two explosions are from fertilizer too and they look pretty similar to the Beirut explosion.

    Texas Fertilizer Plant Explosion Caught on Video



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions#:~:text=On August 12, 2015, a series of explosions,in the Binhai New Area of Tianjin, China

    Tianjin Explosion Video & Photo Compilation Stabilized HD 12 04 2015 China



    Here's what's being said elsewhere.
    https://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic/289630-did-israel-bomb-beirut/?p=2806268
    https://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic/289630-did-israel-bomb-beirut/?p=2806270
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...nese-capital&p=1371006&viewfull=1#post1371006


    I'm not sure what to think now.
     
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    Inverted colours? Why would anyone bother to do that? Didn't read your link after reading that and knowing the website bias from past experience - plus it's a spamming web site which promotes hoaxes
     
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    One of the reasons why we have been hearing hardly anything from the Government in Lebanon is propably becuase LBC has banned them. As it goes into on the tape some people are asking for an 'outside investigation'. As she also points out in the video in post 190 a lot of the corruption comes from the colonial way Government was set up in Lebanon and that is what is needing changing, I am very surprised at the LBC banning what their own Government is saying even though they are all apparently tossing the blame in a different direction. If Lebanon chooses not to listen to its own government and hold them accoutable where necessary, then Lebanon appears itself to be giving up Lebanon. What do you think?

    Edit or possibly this

    Lebanon’s political leaders boycott Aoun’s meeting
    Lebanese President warns of "civil war" climate as critics boycott time-wasting meeting.
     
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    I hadn't realised that Lebanon had originally denied that there were fireworks nearby which will explain why the BBC was calling it a conspiracy theory and possibly still leaves this open.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/beirut-explosion-conspiracy-theories-explained
     
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    Well, the proper context might shed some light on Feiglin's motives, other than being a far right extremist of course.

    Nasrallah has threatened years ago (↢ hyperlink) to provoke a nuclear-like explosion in northern Israel by shooting missiles at ammonia storage facility in Haifa, a threat reiterated only a week ago in Hezbolllah's newspaper Al Manar.

    almanar.com.lb.7027055 (no, I won't link directly to that garbage).

    Oh, the irony...
     
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    Ammonia, especially stored in a liquid form, is not particularly flammable. A natural gas storage container or a petro-chemical plant are much more of a hazard, unlike the part of the sentence that you did not high light "Dimona nuclear plant." and "[nuclear] energy production plants".

    You also missed this bit out "He claimed that the people of Haifa had to thank Hizbullah for this" (removal of ammonia storage within residential areas)

    Now the proper context has shed more light.............
     
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    I hope you're right, and I hope they have the political will and technical ability to test for radioactive particles still present.
     

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