Beirut explosion shatters windows across Lebanese capital

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  1. Jeannette

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    I saw the missile on the second site you posted. It was also pointed out on other videos. According to Stephen De Nun of Israelinewslive, Hezbollah was given a warning by Israel telling them that they were going to suffer a nuclear attack.

    The intent is to cause strife in Lebanon between the different religious factions. According to Stephen De Nun of Israelinewslive, he received a notice by the Pentagon saying they want to cause inner fighting between the different religious and ethnic factions.

    I read that a high official of the Phalange, which is a militant Catholic group in Lebanon has resigned and wants 3 others to resign as well. There are violent protests going on, no doubt against Hezbollah who has gained almost complete control of the country.

    I said it before and I will say it again, why doesn't Hezbollah and Iran get the damn hell out of Lebanon and Syria and leave those nations alone. They have no right being there.
     
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    Hezbolla is Lebanese, even in its Government. You may as well say the Democrats should get out of the US or possibly more similar Trump the Republicans and the Feds.

    You will know that Hezbollah and Iran were asked to help in Syria. Were it not for them, ISIS would now be running Syria. Are you an ISIS supporter? The people of Syria are now and have been for years looking after 1.5 million Syrian Refugees. That is a quarter of their people. Just imagine the US offering such charity to those in need.

    After Israel's 2006 war against Lebanon and it practising the Dahiya Docrine all of Lebanon came together and applauded Hezbollah who had done sufficiently well that people spoke of them willing the war. Hezbollah is now considered part of the Lebanese army.
     
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    On September 27, 2018, Benjamin Netanyahu pointed out to the United Nations General Assembly forum the warehouse that will explode on 4 August 2020 as a Hezbollah arms depot.

    It is not known what weapon was used. However, it has already been tested in Syria since January 2020. It is a missile with a tactical nuclear component in its warhead that causes a smoke mushroom characteristic of nuclear weapons. It is obviously not an atomic bomb in the strategic sense.

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    Israeli test in Syria.


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    The smoke mushroom observed in Beirut has nothing to do with what would have been caused by a conventional explosive.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article210679.html

    Hmmm ....... though Netanyahu is pointing at the airport in the still captured from a video, the area labeled "site 1" is very close to where the explosion occurred.

    Also interesting is the white cloud in both photos. In Beirut, this cloud had been attributed to water vapor from the proximity to the sea, but it clearly is the same from a street-side view away from the water.

    Still not "conclusive", but doubtful anything ever will be with such a ready explanation (welder/fireworks/ammonium nitrate).
     
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    Cornel West on going underground.

     
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    This is from Sputnic who I would rather not use but it is giving information from what has been spoken about on Israeli tv and it appears to me the way Israel is talking that they are trying to get their population to agree they were right when the truth comes out that they were involved.

    They also mention the ammonia racket and Hezbolah as Pisa did.

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/...-which-shook-beirut-for-war-against-tel-aviv/

    I trust everyone is aware now that this AN did not belong to Hezbollah but if you have a look at the way they are talking it does not sound to me the way people would be talking after such a tragedy but more like the kind of talk you would have with your people if you were trying to gee them up to accept war - or what you had already done.
     
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    From your article
    Goes with what the British Bomb Disposal Expert said.

    From the Financial Times

    It looks like not there but I heard I think it was him on the BBC and he said that what was necessary was it coming in contact with the right kind of oil/fuel.
     
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    Alexa - I remember a time when Lebanon was the wealthiest country in the Middle East, and when they were at peace with Israel. When France divided Lebanon from Syria after WWI, it was to create a Christian majority nation. Everything was fine until Jordan kicked out the Palestinians and they went to Lebanon.

    They were kicked out for the same reason that no Islamic nation would take them in. It was their fate in life to take back Palestine no matter how much they suffer, since it was considered a humiliation that Jerusalem was not under Islam. Besides that, any land lived on by Muslims is considered holy land, and therefore must return to Islam. Having the Palestinians go into Lebanon was fine with the Arabs and Iranians, that way they could attack Israel, while at the same time turn Lebanon into a Muslim majority nation.

    If all the lands lived on by Muslims are considered Islamic holy lands, then wouldn't that also threaten Spain, Greece, Serbia, etc., as well as the Muslim areas in France, Britain, etc?
     
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    None of this is concerned with what I said. I will say Israel lost the friendship of the Shia after her occupation and she lost the friendship of the Chrisitan Maronites after her disgraceful behaviour in the 2006 war which I have already given you a link to a description of. Yes, Lebanon was friendly with Israel but it was Israel's actions towards Lebanon which stopped that. Now really this is off topic., I considered ignoring you but that someone would expect people to get out of their own country is asking for a crime against humanity and that was what you were doing.
     
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    Start watching this at the 3:06 time mark.


    It seems to explain the white cloud mentioned here and that can be seen in the Beirut explosion.
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article210679.html


    I'm beginning to think the missile was photoshopped.
     
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    As long as Israel controls Jerusalem, there can be no peace with the Muslims. It's considered a humiliation to their faith. Israel's friendship was with the Christian nation of Lebanon, but that ceased a half a century ago. Today the percentage of Christians in Lebanon and Syria is miniscule compared to 10 years ago.

    Look, I'm just fed up with the suffering in Syria and Lebanon. There is no way Israel is going to stop bombing Syria's military facilities, and there is no way the US will give Syria back its oil wells, unless Hezbollah and Iran get the hell out of Lebanon and Syria.

    Enough is enough! For heaven's sake, Hezbollah is a paramilitary group, it shouldn't exist - never the less take over the country.
     
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    That is not smoke in those pictures...



    Same effect can be seen on a smaller scale...
     
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    On the following site, one can see the anti Hezbollah riots in Beirut which have turned violent. They're hanging an effigy of Nasrallah and Netanyahu - and who knows who else.

    If one scrolls further down, they can see Turks and Turkomans from the Central Asian states wrapped in Turkish flags waiting to greet a delegate. I'm kind of surprised, because these past years Turks were not exactly welcomed in Lebanon. I would also worry about Turks bearing gifts, because when Turkish troops enter, they never leave.


    https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1292150610897272833?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1292150610897272833|twgr^&ref_url=https://www.pronews.gr/amyna-asfaleia/diethnis-asfaleia/903973_virytos-oi-diadilotes-eisevalan-sto-ktirio-toy-ypex
     
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    and people say Trump shouldn't exist. In Democracies people do still have the right to vote for who they like. Israel and the United States and Saudi Arabi all would like Hezbolla gone which if there is an outside element will no doubt be why Lebanon is now in the situation it is. You hence would appear to be applauding what has happened in Lebanon and believe that everyone must succumb to US/Israeli/Saudi Arabia domination.

    Hezbolla's military wing is stronger than the Lebanonese Army. That is one of the reasons why President Aoun said a couple of years ago that Hezbollah was, can't remember exactly how he put it but basically part of the army/defence of Lebanon. He said Lebanon needed them for its security. A Paramilitary military force is an illegal force. Clearly Hezbollah is not illegal in Lebanon. What those who hope to destroy Lebanon think is beyond the point.

    Hezbollah is not just a paramilitary group - Until recently most countries have not called the politcal wing illegal or terrorist. I think it was only about a year ago the UK turning to the far right like most. did.

    Once you have desctroyed them and made Lebanon a colony then you can carry on with the last desire of the Bush admin to destroy Iran.

    As I said several posts back in an interview with an Intellectual and activist, she says the corruption in the Lebanese Government comes directly from the colonial and sectarian Government set up by the French and that is what needs to change. Sectarianism was brought to the ME by France and Britain. I can remember reading at that time when they were talking about someone for a post and were told the person needed to be of a particular demonination - the people did not like that as the person they believed was best for the job was a Christian and it had to be a Muslim. At that time their interest was who was best for the job not his or her religion.

    If what has happened was deliberate by outside powers then you have shown that you support what was done or at the very least are condoning it. Give those who did this deed what they want and then they will not do it again - itself highly questionable.

    Whether your hope for the destrouction of Hezbollah will help your prime interest Russia, I do not know.
     
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    Alexa - No one is debating Israel's actions and inhumanity towards the Palestinians. My point is that the Lebanese and Syrian people are suffering, and there is no way Israel is going to stop as long as its very existence is at stake. Do you think the Muslim leaders care about how many Lebanese and Syrians die? All they care about is to take back Jerusalem and Palestine and undo the humiliation of having others 'triumph' over Islam.
     
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    My concern is towards the people of Lebanon and Syria. It was Washington's actions and demonizing of Assad, who was the only secular and tolerant leader in tthe Middle East that woke me up to reality. It made me realize the injustices and what my country was doing. But attacking Israel or Washington for the injustices is not going to change the situation and end the problem. The only way those nations and people will have any peace is if Iran leaves Syria and Hezbollah ceases to exist.
     
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    How is Assad tolerant? I do agree that we should never have been in Syria but Assad wasn't ever tolerant. He has a long history of mass murder like many leaders of other nations. Obama getting into Syria really screwed up the middle east problem, that I agree, but Assad is no saint.
     
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    That region of the world has been at perpetual war for ages, nothing new.
     
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    You're believing too much of the 'black is white' and the 'white is black' propaganda of the MSM. Assad is an Alawite, who like the Alevi's in Turkey, were probably Christians who professed Shia Islam to escape persecution. The Alevi's were looked down on by the Sunnis because of their tolerance of other faiths, and secularism. The only reason the Assad's gained power, is because they were in the army - since the Sunnis considered the military below them. They wanted others to do their fighting.

    From what I heard, Assad created a lovely society where everyone lived with one another, and that's what they're trying to retain. We on the other hand, have been supporting the terrorists who want to impose sharia law. It was Assad who was protecting the Christians from genocides, and when Obama wanted to bomb Damascus over the false flag chemical attack, it was packed with Christians who ran there to escape the terrorists. It would have turned into the biggest massacre in history.

    Anyway, the reason Assad is demonized by Israel and Washington, is because of his loyalty to Iran and Russia, who helped him fight the terrorists that were coming in from Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Russia has a good relationship with Israel since 1/3 of the Israelis are Russian, but Iran on the other hand poses a threat to Israel.

    Washington said it will leave Syria if Iran does, not that anyone can believe anything we say, but who knows? Anything is better than what's going on now - at least for the Syrian people.
     
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    Had a feeling you would post a deflection. All good though. I made my point and you proved it.
     
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    Yep ... I heard of QAnon of course ...
    They are absolute idiots, totally narrow-minded and irredeemably stupid in their belief in the conspiracy theories. Discussing it with these people is a waste of life time ... even if you bring the irrefutable proof, they even doubt facts like 1 + 1 = 2 ... and above all:
    All people; those who destroy their belief in conspiracy theories with such evidence are then cursed in the worst possible way. According to the people, I'm an employee of the CIA, NSA, FBI, Secret Service, the German secret service, the US government, the Chinese government, an employee of the EU ... who is only supposed to distribute misinformation.
    Man ... I have to get fat paychecks every month if that were true ... :nana:

    Jeannette ...
    Actually, I shouldn't be surprised that you follow this BS of conspiracy theory ... but somehow you keep surprising me!

    First of all ... Netanyahu's speech is 2 years old ... I repeat: 2 YEARS OLD !!!
    Don't you think that if he was right with his claim that the Mossad or whatever service in Israel would have "settled" the matter long ago, eh?
    Netanyahu claims 2 years ago that Hezbollah is hiding bad missiles there ... in public ... and even Hezbollah is not so stupid, if that's true what Netanyahu said ... to keep their missiles at this place, eh?!

    The fact is that this area of the port has been a hazardous materials area / warehouse for 20 years andmore, where all kinds of hazardous materials that come to Beirut by sea are stored! Ammonium nitrate is also a hazardous substance, as everyone knows, because in, let's say certain contexts, it is not only an agricultural fertilizer, but also an explosive!

    And as for the degree of destruction ... do you have any idea or can you even imagine what around 2,700 metric tons of ammonium nitrate ... that's 2.7 million kilograms or almost 6 million American pounds! ... wreak havoc when they explode?
     
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