Pentagon Has ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's what the Popular Mechanic's headline says.

    It's even confirmed in bullet points below the title.

    However, does the government confirm this, or can that be reasonably presumed from the
    article? Read it and see what you think.


    https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...3777/pentagon-ufo-program-materials-vehicles/

    The Pentagon's on-and-off-again, once-covert UFO program is decidedly back on—and will soon reveal some of its findings to the public.

    An astrophysicist who consulted on the UFO program confirms the government possesses materials from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”

    The news comes on the heels of the Navy's official release of three notorious UFO videos.
     
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    Well, I think the program wasn't closed down. They just stopped funding it. But that program probably had enough cash to continue to run it for some time.

    As for vehicles, sometimes probes and satellites are called vehicles. And if they built it in space piecemeal launching parts into space a little bit at a time, on a launch schedule, that might be an off world vehicle.

    But, it would be cool if they were holding on to super advanced vehicles like nothing we've seen before.
     
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    I'd suggest the word "claims" is more appropriate than the word "confirms" there. I've not even seen anything suggesting how the astrophysicist established that the material he apparently looked at couldn't possibly have been made on Earth.
     
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    I have always found it curious.... the narrative that some advanced civilization that has developed the technology to travel vast distances with vehicles made of stuff not found on earth with the capability to evade our ‘primitive’ means of detection and capture that out perform and fly our technology, and somehow survives the perils of interspace or inter-dimensional travel somehow fails and crashes here on earth. Considering ‘they’ have been visiting for eons, you’d think they would have accounted for any condition encountered... or... is it evidence of incompetence?
    BTW... no evidence of crashed vehicles in the past?
    If we have preserved the evidence, why try to reverse engineer a obviously flawed design, one made from materials we can’t obtain on earth?
     
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    All the elements naturally existing on Earth are from super novas that exploded long ago.

    We're star stuff.

    Elements not of this Earth are heavier elements that don't prove, but strongly suggest, that they were created in a lab by some manufacturing process.
     
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    When I took astronomy in college, I heard that they can now alter atoms with a laser beam, or something, and they can actually change the element to another one, but it becomes radioactive. So not something you can use.
     
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    If the narrative is that the vehicles are made from stuff not found on earth, as would be common throughout the universe by product of Super Novas the narrative is a bit specious.
    As for lab created heavier elements, they have been generated in labs here on earth. However, they aren’t stable and decay extremely rapidly (why they aren’t in natural abundance) into other elements.
     
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    Oh, what is your position on the supernova theory of cosmic element origins? The way you say that has me thinking that you don't believe that happened, or maybe I was mistaken and you meant that the argument that something is made from elements not of this earth to be spacious?
    Well, yes. But you are missing two things you might want to look up. 1) that elements come in several configurations called "isotopes," so there are actually several versions of each element, and 2) that there is expected to be an "island of stability" way up high in the heavier elements.
     
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    This nonsense seems to come up every few years.
     
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    True, but this time the information is coming from the Pentagon's UAP program.
     
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    Is there an official release from the Pentagon claiming they have off world vehicles?
     
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    I would be absolutely astounded if man could make any new elements. New isotopes, possibly, but these are usually unstable.

    imo the periodic table is complete, or if not quite complete, man can't make any new elements to observe and add to the periodic table. If there actually are any new elements, man will have to find them elsewhere.
     
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    Real soon now!!

    The USA navy just about has the answer! And, their first act on that will be to inform the American public!!

    That quote could have appeared in the 1950's.
     
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    No, not yet, and the op article's title was somewhat misleading. They didn't 'have' off-world vehicles. They have materials that came from 'off-world' vehicles. So, in other words, it could be pig iron and other junk materials. Rather than a useful thing like shape-shifting liquid metal that alters its shape, under control, and then hardens.

    Here's the bullet point from the article that describes this (bold, mine):
     
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    See post 8: Pentagon Has ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’
     
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    So really, they may have some ores, rocks, or bits of metal that they think (hope) may come from off world aircraft.

    So in other words, nothing.
     
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    Could be nothing. I don't know.

    But, I'm going to wait and see what the Pentagon comes up with. I want them to play their hand so I can see what cards they're holding.

    Could be nothing, could be everything. Only time will tell.
     
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    The scientist in question denies it. Lol

    This info comes from the Wilson documents that both Wilson and the scientist deny ever happened.

    The material in question was sent to art bell years ago. It is a finely layered bismuth and some other metal that no one makes and has no use. The Army now is looking at it.
     
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    the question was whether or not the Gov was making the claim, because if that is so, that's a big deal. The gov normally tries to cover this kind of stuff up.
     
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    One would think. But, Murphy's law is universal. **** happens. Maybe statistically speaking, it happens to us a lot more, but **** still happens, to the best of them. Maybe they hadn't figured on our radar mucking up their guidance system back in 1947 . as it was a relatively new thing for us, at the time. I'm sure they reconfigured their space rides since then

    But, for anyone who doubts Roswell, this over 3 hour lecture ought to straighten them out. Every base is touched on this, not to mention over 200 deathbed confessions from Roswell witnesses, of whom 20 stated there were 'creatures' and one was 'alive', That's one mighty fierce weather balloon.
     
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    That was the question posited in the OP, because the headline of the article suggested it, and I read the article, but scratching my head on whether or not the content in the article backed up the headline. Read it and see what you think.
    Such a thing probably won't be 'official' it will probably be more like someone in the know having a slip of the tongue. that's what I'm trying to find if that happened here.
     
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    So...no official release.
     
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    That isn't a question at all. It's a single individual saying it with zero supporting evidence, hence "claims" rather than "confirms". It's also not a new claim and there is no valid reason to directly link it to either changes to how the US government handles information about unidentified phenomena or the videos that were released recently. This is just an attempt to take some disparate threads and weave an artificial singular narrative out of them.
     
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    A major problem here is that these super long speeches NEVER present the evidence against what the speaker is claiming.

    So, what you hear is one individual's opinion in TOTAL ABSENCE of science.

    Scientists who spend their LIVES looking for signs of life not from Earth remain not even SLIGHTLY convinced.

    This should be a SERIOUS warning sign to you.
     
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    You're pretty sure about Don Schmitt, eh?
     

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