Donald Trump to Suspend Payroll Tax Until End of 2020

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Would you support democrats going to court to take food out of the mouths of the hungry?

  1. Yes, tax cuts for blue state rich comes first

    12.5%
  2. Yes, budget relief for tax and spend blue states, cities comes first

    12.5%
  3. No way

    75.0%
  1. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    There are plenty of unspent funds from prior bills passed that can be redirected to these ends. What he did requires no additional funds.
     
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    I doubt that any doubt that they are hypocrites.
     
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    No, not only blue states. But it is blue states that have the most debt. So they'll more than likely get the lions share.
     
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    There is some yes but you keep blasting dems about helping blue states which is a lie they want funding for ALL states unlike trump who only wants to help battleground or red states.
    States are struggling having to pay unemployment since they cover it for companies. Couple that with added expedentures to fight the virus they need help or more massive layoffs will begin this includes law enforcement firemen road workers and teachers. Couple that I'm sure you go down a road where it needs work we this certainly will push that date back which means added frustrations usually when you catch a flat in a pot hole.
     
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    Actually you are wrong

    Red states take more than they give every year I thought you read that article that I posted on the give and take of tax dollars.
     
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    So it is preferable then no States get relief.
    Even though all have less tax income and significant more money spent on virus issues.
     
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    Product or service demand causes employers to hire, not extra savings.
    Those funds might be reinvested into the business or they could simply go into the owners pockets.

    I don’t know about you but my friend is certainly enjoying his new boat that was paid for with proceeds from the PPP program. It created zero jobs btw
     
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    Here is to allowing them to let it proceed and then using it as precedent when a Democrat takes office. I bet you will applaud the unconstitutional action then.
     
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    Yup billions to fight global warming. Billions to fight gun ownership. Cant forget to direct money to pay off student loans
    And last but not least massive funding to planned parenthood!!!!
     
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    Take a look at that chart tell me what on average does blue states take in more than they give thsn red states?
     
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    I keep blasting them because that is their main goal with that pork. Do you really think they care about red states? As for your claim about Trump...

    LINK: Mnuchin says stimulus package will not be a bailout for 'mismanged' states

    Watch the vid in the link. Notice he said "all states".

    As for the unemployment pay...states do not pay it all by themselves. Employers pay into it in addition to also paying it on a federal level. LINK: Employer Guide to Federal Unemployment Tax – FUTA The feds then supplement the States in paying out unemployment.

    As for laying off law enforcement...isn't that what Dems want anyways? A Seattle councilwoman was just roasted recently for saying that they should lay off white people first. This of course after defunding police.

    In any case...I note that you didn't condemn the Dems for their pork. Instead you excused it.
     
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    Where did I say that they take in less/more than red states? Oh right. I didn't. I said that blue states have the most debt. Which is true. LINK: US States With the Most Debt

    As the article points out, California has the highest debt. This despite the fact that it also brings in more than any other state GDP wise. Why do they have the highest debt when they make more than any other state in the union?
     
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    Because they are having yo prop up red states perhaps?
    I think we should let states keep the majority of their tax revenue instead of sending it to the federal government to give to states that scream “SOCIALISM” all the time. Deal?
     
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    Stop a tax? Bernie just had another heart attack.
     
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    Sorry they are not like trump who looks at us as pawns so he will starve even his own ppl out just because they live in a blue state he has made that abundantly clear. They care about their states of course but more importantly is all states that need the help.



    Look at the state as a insurance company for unemployment. Yes companies pay each month to cover their workers. However just like say progressive insurance if they were to all of a sudden get thousands of claims they would go bankrupt no difference here.

    As far as the defund of police hia ignorant you are and foolish sheep of your god trump. You really think they want the police abolished? Bad choice of words in trying to convey their message I will say that but your ignorance is getting the better of you. The ppl who are pushing that cause want less involvement with police officers. For example if someone gets the cops called on him or her that is suicidal instead of a cop who usually has zero experience in handling a person like that who most of the time would make matters worse instead send a psychiatrist who deals with ppl like that on a daily basis. Or a drug counselor to deal with someone on drugs and use the cop as backup just in case instead of the cop going in there dude flips out thinking something is happening that's not and gets killed by the cop flipping out on him. See how that works?

    From what I saw of their bill the only part I would have objected to was student loan forgiveness. I dont thinking should be forgiven however I do feel that a person should be able to discharge a student loan after so many years after schooling.
     
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    Well if they were to get back from the government like red states maybe they woulddnt be that far in debt fool.
     
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    Hey, hey, hey! No critical thinking and logical analysis...you know how much that upsets Dump's legion of followers!
     
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    Excellent point! It was one of Obama's demonstrations of his "right of center" Democratic policies...and even with that the GOP wailed and railed against him. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obam... of America's seniors on a permanent vacation.
     
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    glad to see this president act when the dems eat ice cream.
     
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    But democrats love their ice cream princess!
     
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    maybe you should look at different chart
     
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    The States already keep their full tax revenue. What in the world makes you think that they don't? The only ones paying to other states are citizens via their federal taxes.
     
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    I am referring to cutting federal taxes down to a minimum level, as the framers intended. Allow the states to tax their citizens and provide or withhold what programs they decide to.
     
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    And States have Federal backing. That's something that insurance companies don't have.

    Minneapolis City Council members say they plan to vote to disband city's police department

    And they voted yes for it.
     

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