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President Trump Signs 4 Executive Orders On COVID-19 Relief

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  1. Chuck711

    Chuck711 Well-Known Member

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    Another Republican who wants to cut taxes while adding Trillions to the Debt

    Nothing ever changes
     
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    just curious when you all raised taxes did the debt go down?

    i want to reform medicare and medicaid the largest drivers of debt
     
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  3. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sorry.. I loved your original post... I just instinctively laugh when anybody implies Trump ever had a working knowledge of the US Constitution.

    Remember the Nunberg story about trying to get Trump a basic knowledge? Didn't go so well...

    https://www.newsweek.com/former-trump-adviser-teach-constitution-769691
     
    Egoboy, Aug 9, 2020
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  4. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'd answer that if either of us had any clue what it means...
     
    Egoboy, Aug 9, 2020
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    They’re not EOs. It’s three memorandums and one EO.

    This stunt, as usual, wasn’t thought out.
    The funding shift gambit for unemployment will run out in roughly two weeks.

    The sooner we figure out the GOP has been and is our plague the better off we’ll be.

    Our current environment—shitshow—is the logical conclusion of the GOP mentality.

    Buckle up!
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol crazy Nancy is pissed.

     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Well-Known Member

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    Thank goodness, someone with common sense and reading comprehension:hug: I was getting a headache reading the hysterical reactions from people who don't understand what "deferred" means, or who think making 5 months of deferred payroll tax cuts permanent would somehow singlehandedly bankrupt SS.


    That crazy b*tch is a plague on this country.
     
    Libby, Aug 9, 2020
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    i’ve never seen someone so upset that the president has helped millions who are out of work because of no fault of their own
     
    struth, Aug 9, 2020
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    Any politicians that fight to stop Trump for giving Americans cash money during this health emergency will be attempting to commit political suicide.

    I am with you - I hope they go for it. "Jump! Jump! Jump!" ;-)
     
    Ddyad, Aug 9, 2020
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you catch her yelling "NO!" at a reporter last week like 8 times?

    She said it to Wallace also, and her voice is even more hoarse.

    Maybe she's been yelling a lot recently..
     
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    I don't have the stomach to watch Nancy. I couldn't get past the :30 mark.
     
    Rush_is_Right, Aug 9, 2020
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    It's because the strategy is to make the American people suffer. Their reasoning is if people are miserable they will blame it on Trump and vote for decomposing Joe.
     
    Booman, Aug 9, 2020
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    That's how top dems roll.
     
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    I suspect they will for some of these.. and the polling will support it, as usual....

    The D's have the popular support for most of what they do these days.

    Sure that burns you..
     
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    They presume their supporters have a Bidenesque level of comprehension. And Pelosi is just as bad and more vindictive.

    [​IMG]​
     
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    BENEFITS, not REVENUE. And it's from automatic congressional authorization. It doesn't even require new funding authority, it's built into the non-discretionary side of the budget.

    Now, back to my original question to you. Did you come up with this on your own, in which case, discussions such as this are a very good use of this forum, or did some Lying Fake News Twit feed this crap to you?
     
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    It's straight from the administration website. No news.

    The funding for Social Security comes from 89% of the payroll taxes. That means if you cut it you lose it.

    But you know what ? Trump should keep going with his promise to eliminate payroll taxes if He wins on November 3. Great way to piss off the older voter collecting or the soon to be collecting Social Security.

    “In 2019, $944.5 billion (89 percent) of total Old-Age and Survivors Insurance and Disability Insurance income came from payroll taxes. The remainder was provided by interest earnings $80.8 billion (7.6 percent) and revenue from taxation of OASDI benefits $36.5 billion(3.4 percent).”
     
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    Only Congress has control of tax (deferred payroll tax), spending policy (unemployment benefits), and fiscal policy (student loans). The constitution doesn't give the president any of the powers to do what Trump's executive order did. Imagine if in the 2008 crisis that Obama used an executive order to order a 2 trillion dollar stimulus? What would be the reation from conservatives?
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think Trumps plan is to kill off all those older voters with the COVID so Social Security isn't a big issue in November.

    Seems to be working...
     
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    Puts democrats in the untenable position of going to court to block these measures their own voters desperately need and want.
     
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    Yeah lets go to court and watch democrats try to take money from the unemployed. :xd:
     
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    Let’s see if these checks actually get deposited in anyone’s accounts? For one I doubt any state just throws in 100 because he said so,
     
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    Lets see if democrats are stupid enough to try to take money out of the pockets of their own base.
     
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    No it doesn't. It just means funding from other taxes makes up a larger share of the benefit.
    He can't without enabling legislation, which Pelosi will never give him. She hates the American People for not supporting her crazed antics. She isn't going to pass anything that lessens the burden of COVID on the American People.
     
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    He Lucyed her stupid ass. Now she will be forced to actually negotiate rather than take a hard line:

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