WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    Then you watched a different clip to me because I saw a man bringing a concealed gun around to bear on a police officer, <EDIT>.
     
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    America is one of the freest and most democratic nations on earth, what evidence do you have otherwise?
     
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    And I want you to formally apologise to the people who suffered under those actual dictatorships for comparing them to one of the freest and most democratic countries on earth.
     
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    The killer did, he saved his partner's life so there was no homicide victim, you should give him a medal.
     
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    Yes and that's the problem with African Americans, they see racism where there is none, are confrontational and looking to be offended. Stop quoting The Guardian if you want to be taken seriously, it's a commie rag and on its' way out.
     
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    It's clear to anyone that watched it objectively.

    I am not a cop attacker.
     
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    This theme.
     
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    Who is your doctor?
     
  9. Reasonablerob

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    I watched it objectively, have empathy with this officer and not be a hindsight hypocrite
     
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    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    So, none?
     
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    David Tennant. Now stop avoiding the question.
     
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    OK. We disagree on his culpability.
     
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    Evidently the cops weren't sure he was white because the light was bad.

    Whites don't seem to be bothered when other innocent whites are shot by police.
     
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    He did the right thing anyone would have in the same situation unless they had x-ray vision or a mindreading device.
     
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    1. No innocent person killed here, this idiot got himself shot

    2. Because they lack African American's hypocrisy and culture of victimhood?
     
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    Again, we disagree. What's the point in rehashing it?
     
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    No. Whites are excited by witnessing a murder. It justifies whites' guns and bibles culture.

    This shooting was unjustified. No life was in danger other than the victim.

    The victim was on his knees and was shot in the back.
     
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    What a load of utter crap!

    Since when does anyone RAISE their left hand to the SURRENDER position when they are "dropping into a kneeling firing stance'?

    His right hand was moving DOWNWARDS and AWAY from himself which is NOT how it would move if he was trying to "drop into a kneeling firing stance' either.

    What YOU are claiming is NOT supported by the video!
     
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    Shal I take Breitbart better as the Guardian?
    Sorry ... maybe Guardian is lefty ... but there is also much rghty BS media milling around too and liked to be quoted like mad, isn't it?
     
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    There are 2 primary contributing factors to this man's death (I don't have enough information to determine which outweighs the other):

    1. Cops had guns drawn on the unopened door.

    2. Man answered door with a gun.

    Everything that happened once the door was opened was amost predetermined by previous bad choices by all.
     
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    Not really, the cop who shot could have thought before shooting by reflex

    Also, I wonder why the cops didn't approach the door with bulletproof vests on. I understand that is protocol nearly everywhere nowadays and justifies police being far less fearful and precipitate in their actions
     
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    Is it illegal?
    What do you care, or the gov, or the police how I open the door? It's not your concern.
    Also, it seems it was very late, past midnight.

    The man seemed surprised to see the police... Didn't even had time to comply, he was shot in 2 seconds. I am amazed.
     
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    What if the occupant saw that and aimed for the cop's head (or neck - jugular) when shooting through the door? The procedure is in place just for that reason.
     
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    I am sure I read that the US police put saving their own lives above everything else. If that is the case a lot of people will die who did not need to die.
     
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    That is clearly not true given that police officers routinely put themselves in positions of danger for others benefit. Going to confront someone about a noise complaint is putting themselves at risk somewhat, which is exactly why people call the police for that kind of thing rather than deal with it themselves.
     
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