I want to start an online outreach to Satanists....

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Can demons be given hope?

  1. No... the demons have zero hope!

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  2. Yes..... Elijah must "restore all things"

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  3. I am not sure but I will research this further.

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  1. Farnsworth

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    In my opinion, the word 'Adam' refers to both the male and female in the Garden of Eden verses; it's a term that means 'humankind', roughly, not a separate name. That separation into 'Adam and Eve' come after they are cast out, and it is Adam who names Eve and declares them separate, so when one refers to 'Adam' it is necessary to clarify whether one is discussing 'Adam' of the Garden or 'Adam' after being cast out, in which the latter case Eve is a separate name and not inclusive with 'Adam'.

    As for stigmata, I wouldn't know; I just know some few people in the past are alledged to have them appear on their bodies, but I've never personally seen them.
     
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    Very interesting indeed!

    This type of information has fascinated me for five of my six decades.

    This is one of the most intriguing videos that I ever heard that is related to this topic.





    Stranger Things: Occult, Witchcraft, and Satanism: Ep 122 on Your Prophetic Journey with Shawn Bolz
     
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    Which holocaust? 6 million jews were victims of no less than 30 different holocausts from 1850 to 1945.

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    or are you talking about the government satanists that would manipulate the public with lies and propaganda?
     
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  6. DennisTate

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    Just after the 1:00:00 minute mark in this lecture Rabbi Alon Anava gives the seven names of HaSatan / The Devil... according to Judaism. He is also referred to as the Sitra Achra....
    Former Covering Cherub HaLel is very good at what he does.... which is deceive people to go further and further and further downward but..... on the plus side...... WE ALL LEARN A LOT BY OUR FALL INTO DARKNESS..... and especially on how we are given repentance and healing......



    The reason the entire world is attacked by the coronavirus & Rabbi Anava 2nd near death experience

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov

     
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    I admit that I could be wrong......
    I often am......
    but I personally wonder to what degree Lucifer fought with the Archangel Michael over the bones of Moses......
    partly because Satan may have admired how Moses argued with G-d on behalf of Israel????????????

    Jude 1:9 "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."

    So what I am trying my best to do... .is present a scenario that puts a possible at least somewhat positive spin on how and why Satan is playing out his role of leading the Left Hand Path????????


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-and-the-media.331262/page-9#post-1072444904


    I guess this makes me something of a "Devil's Advocate" doesn't it?
     
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    For all of The Devil's many, many, many, many, many flaws...... there are huge implications to the statement by Pastor Rick Joyner that THE MANTLE OF HUMILITY IS RECOGNIZED....... NOT ONLY BY THE ANGELS OF HEAVEN........ BUT ALSO BY THE ANGELS FROM HELL AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html



    https://vimeopro.com/vfndc/final-quest-the-call-the-harvest/video/414170858





     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Most Satanists I have known were Laveyans, and Laveyans see their "religion" as inherently bogus, sort of like the SubGenius with ****ing and sacrifices. Lavey himself said its major purpose was to free people from sexual/religious hangups, and that he did not himself believe in God or the Devil.

    If you outreach to these people be careful. Most are, if not con men themselves, fairly versed in the con man's lexicon and not at all restrained in their use of them, particularly against religious people and religion, which most of them see as having had a major bad effect on their lives. I don't believe for a minute that they could steal your soul but your money is quite another matter.
     
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    If you haven't already you should read "Childhood's End " by Arthur C. Clarke, You'd like it.
     
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    I just found the brief summary on youtube.com......





    "Karellen" is an interesting pun..... because as Covering Cherub HaLel ..... he was the leader of worship services in heaven..... previous to his fall.

    Fascinating........
    this seems to fit with the situation of the earth as shown to near death experiencer Howard Storm for the year 2185 or so.



    https://www.near-death.com/religion/christianity/howard-storm.html#a04

     
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    I've built worlds like that in stories, nice places.
     
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    Arthur C. Clarke was NOT a stupid man and his idea of "religion" seeming to almost disappear......... or appear to disappear by becoming less controlling over the lives of humans...... is actually quite logical and in many ways in line with the creation of a truly utopian world?????


    Former Atheist and near death experiencer Mellen Benedict was even more courageous in some ways in how he described how to usher in the Era of Moshiach!

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a09

    I know that many of my deeply religious friends would tend to assume that former Atheist Mellen Benedict must have met Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan during his NDE........ and they might be reminded of Matthew chapter four but........ whatever the ultimate truth on that is........ I think that we are getting closer to a truly golden age!


    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/4/1/s_933001


    Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

    And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

    And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

    But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

    And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

    Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

    Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

    And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

    Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

    Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
     
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    Personally.... I believe that Laveyans are deliberately LYING when they state that their religion is "inherently bogus." They are doing what they have been instructed to do by some higher level Satanists than they consider themselves to be...... Satan's kingdom is a monarchy........... and Laveyans are very obedient to the people who they consider to be "authority figures" from well above them in the hierarchy of Satan's kingdom. Basically...... the Laveyans who are more skilled at Astral Projection..... controlled out of the body experiences..... they have more power in Satan's governmental system.


    I personally believe that former Satanist John Ramirez is telling the truth about some of the psychic capabilities of higher level Laveyans......


    Kevin & Friends with Ex-Warlock John Ramirez
     
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    With all due respect, it sounds like you have swallowed Lavey's bs hook, line, and sinker, but you will say the same about me so let's not argue. I'm just saying, keep your hand on your wallet around these people.

    My personal feeling is that all "Real" Satanists are big-time crazy. If you actually BELIEVED in all this **** then WHY would you hook up with the LOSER? Riddle me that Bat Preacher
     
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    Here is an account of the last forty eight hours or so of Mr. Anton LaVey's life....... from an angle that you might not expect.........




    Stranger Things: Occult, Witchcraft, and Satanism: Ep 122 on Your Prophetic Journey with Shawn Bolz

    I try to invest roughly ten percent of my income into something that I can recognize as being of benefit to my Creator and other humans and in 2020 what I decided to do was take all of near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai's courses..... last week I expanded into taking courses from a different ministry..... By getting myself better prepared to answer questions on these topics I feel that I am putting a tithe to good use.......
     
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    Why would two cosmic powers fight over the corpse of a man? Actually, they wouldn't. IMO, you are floundering in personification, which is why it is so difficult to make it work sensibly.

    Moses is an archetype of the third stage, a plane in the scheme of metaphysics, in this case a symbol of the earth. The battle is just another war in heaven, a struggle in one of the seven steps towards the transition between involution and evolution.

    Indirectly, you are following the planetary scheme, since Satan is the creative energy of the left half (Involution). Beyond that, it's just another sideshow of the Vulgate's Deus est Demon Inversus, i.e. God is the flip side of the devil.
     
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    Wow!!!!!!!

    Seriously cool comments Galecski7238!

    Just this morning it hit me that I may perhaps have stumbled onto two of the reincarnations of Moses and Joshua...... based partly on the teachings of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov about going down very low......... in order to ascend really, really, really high????????

    Here is some background as to why I suspected this.......

    "I am so glad that I took this course on Spiritual Warfare from Evangelist John Ramirez!"

    Evangelist John Ramirez :
    johnramirez
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    The Battle Strategies Of A Warrior - Kevin Zadai and Ex Warlock John Ramirez - Episode 1 -

    Rabbi Nachman of Breslov :

     
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    My situation could in some ways be far, far, far, far, far worse even than that???????????


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...much-worse-news.530504/page-2#post-1072460114




     
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    Strange

    You know what I think you may need? Eschew the Internet entirely for a little while and get a nice cat. You'd be surprised at how much it helps to have one of god's creatures to take care of. Especially one who appreciates it like a cat does.

    Be well and be careful
     
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    Good point... one near death experience in six according to the research done by Dr. Ken Ring involves a meeting with a previously deceased pet!


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/pets/jan-price.html
     
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    Not only all our pets but all the animals who had no human to love them. Heaven is the kingdom of love above all. All life has a soul and all souls live in unending happiness there, forever.
     
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    I absolutely agree with you!!!!!!!

    God is in animals... and in trees... and in grass.. .and even in rocks!

    Near death experiencer Sharon Milliman was shown a lot about that aspect of reality.
     
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    You should read Philip Pullman's trilogy His Dark Materials and the recently published The Book of Dust by the same author, both have Panpsychism as major themes. I think you would enjoy them
     
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    I have to admit that even the series looks interesting.....



    His Dark Materials: Season 1 | Official Trailer | HBO

    and.....



    This couple sure liked the book..... it is a big book isn't it!

    I've taken to buying the audio version of books lately....
     
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