Mail Delays Fuel Concerns Trump is undercutting USPS ahead of voting

When I mail in a ballot what assurance do I have it was received and not tampered with? Signing my signature when I vote in person is hardly the same as a signature on an envelope that could be easily be computer generated.

 

They normally sort by hand? Is that why they had to shut down the mail-in sorting machines? Because they did it by "hand"

Trump has made a continued attack on Mail-In Voting
He appointed a Campaign Donor with no experience to PostMaster
Thee has cut funding, hours, overtime pay just before we head into an election
He shut down functioning mail sorting machines
He has prohibited drivers from taking any more mail if it would cause their route to take longer than usual
Furthermore, Kushner has been meeting with Kanye, who has been trying to launch a 3rd party run whom people believe could take votes from Biden

It all has the looks, and sounds, and walk of election interference. And if it sounds like a duck, quacks like a duck....

 

It's actually quite the same as a computer is going to scan the signature in either case.

In Colorado we have ballot tracking. I am told when my ballot is mailed to me. I am told when they receive my ballot. I am told when my ballot is counted.

I guess not everyone lives is one-horse, ass-backwards towns that can't figure out technology.

 

They have to rearrange the equipment in the facilities to make room for the new machines, not that it really matters, since you are so keen on letting him jerk you around.

 

Several states have ballot tracking, not to mention 24 surveillance of the ballot boxes. I'm not sure how you think that such a signature cold be "easily" computer generated.

Then there's the matter of the sealed ballot itself. Someone would have to get their hands on ANOTHER ballot with your unique code, and that would only be mailed to your address.

So, they'd have to intercept the first ballot you were mailed. Then you'd have to be mailed another ballot, which you would fill out, and then they would find a way to intercept your ballot before it gets to the 24-hour surveillance box and replace it with the one they filled out, and they'd have to forge your signature and, in some cases, include a photocopy of your ID.

There is no evidence this is happening at all, much less that it is in any way widespread.

 

Is that the new talking point? Decreased hours, no overtime pay, restricted from picking up additional mail if it causes their route to be longer, functional machines shut down, Kushner helping support Kanye's campaign....but oh, they're just "making room for new machines"?

lol

The Cultists have no end to excuses, it seems.

 

The most simple way would be using a signature that was scanned and reproduced as a facsimile. At the high end you have the Autopen signature machine.

 

There's nothing "simple" about the plot you've proposed. It would take a lot more than an Autopen. There is no evidence such a plot is happening at all, much less that it is widespread.

 

There is a big difference between my signature that I sign in front of witnesses when I vote and my signature that arrives on an envelope.

 

The post office has 31K different facilities. Move a machine at one, cut overtime at another and the democrats will see a giant conspiracy going all the way to the top. If you want to help the post office and mail in voters out, stop ordering stuff off the internet.

 

Not really. The only "difference" you've come up is a fantasy scenario with NO evidence of any kind that would involve more than just faking a signature.

 

Not really. I've voted in person and by mail, no one looked over my shoulder as I signed my ballot in a polling site, just like no one looks over my shoulder when I sign my ballot before I drop it off at a secure drop off location.

To first order, it's the same.

 

Or don't try to artificially restrict the hours and capability of the USPS so that they can adapt to the needs in order to properly handle Mail-In ballots. Make sure each precinct has enough machines so you don't waste time ferrying them about.

There's less of a Conspiracy going on here, particularly since Trump admitted to doing this to affect mail-in voting, than there is for the whole "deep state" nonsense Trump Cultists have been spouting for 4 years.

Don't mess around with the election. Is that so hard to understand? Is that not somehow an ideal we want to keep up. Make sure everyone who can vote is afforded the capability of voting and in a Global Pandemic, that may require relying more on mail-in voting that otherwise.

Nothing but excuses for the right.

 

I hope you are aware that there has been a historical record of fraud in all US National elections since the country is founded. Saying there is no evidence or a plot happening is like saying a certain percentage of crime is undetected.

 

Trump wants to cause delays on the 2020 vote counting, than will use that as an excuse for him losing

 

I never said there is no evidence of any kind of fraud of any kind. It happens . . . it is just that it hardly ever happens. I said there was no evidence of YOUR proposed plot. It sounds like a bad movie plot, and not even a particularly realistic one.

 

Trump hasn't admitted anything. But just to amuse us, please provide us the exact quote and a credible source in which he stated the nonsense you claim he admitted. It should be as entertaining as turning a request to work with an investigation into an impeachable offense.

 

When I vote in person, I sign a book in front of people and my signature is validated against a printed list of registered voters.

 

You say it hardly ever happens. I say it happens in every election. No matter how the next election goes, you know there will be some degree of fraud and the loser will likely claim major fraud and refuse to accept the results.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/12/postal-service-ballots-dejoy/

He's been raging against Mail-In voting for weeks now. Trump knows that if the People vote, he loses. So he's looking for any excuse possible to stop the People from voting.

 

The bottom line is the USPS cannot guarantee delivery. Tracking is not a guarantee of delivery. And the USPS tracks stuff as delivered when it reaches the local Post Office. Not when it gets to my house. Stuff ordered from Amazon sometimes disappears and when reported to the USPS they tell me to call Amazon. If my ballot is tracked as delivered how do I know it was delivered? And if it does not get delivered then what?

 

When I vote by mail, I sign my ballot and it's validated against a database of registered voters.

 

"They don’t have the money to do the universal mail-in voting. So therefore, they can’t do it, I guess,” Trump said. “Are they going to do it even if they don’t have the money?” is not an admission of anything.

 

Any literate person knows these are not mutually exclusive statements. Shark attacks hardly ever happen, but they happen every year. Million dollar lottery wins hardly ever happen, but they happen every year. Deaths by lightning hardly ever happen, but they happen every year. Human deaths by livestock hardly ever happen, but but they happen every year. Understand?

There will be some fraud. There is no evidence it will be significant in any way. The only person who would likely claim fraud in an attempt to refuse to accept the results would be Trump.

 

Then you can contact the County Government and they will give you time to make it up. Colorado you have 8 days past election day to clear up issues. Plus it's tracked. I am notified when my ballot is received, I am notified when my ballot is counted.

And Colorado has secure Drop Box locations all over the place, I don't even have to mail it back. I can go to the closes drop box and deposit that there. County officials collect it regularly, and bam, delivered to the county for counting. No USPS required.