Candidate blues

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  1. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    I can understand why progressives would focus on mass incarceration, police brutality, and criminal justice reform. I don't hold it against her. Nobody is perfect, and we should be looking to the future, not the past.

    While her actions in some areas may be reprehensible to progressives, politically they serve as a shield against Trump's baseless attacks about defunding the police.

    Her record may be less than stellar to some, but politically she is the perfect choice.
     
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    Perfect candidate. Here's the perfect candidate telling us how stupid young people are:



    Here's the perfect candidate telling us she wants young people to vote:

    Senator Kamala Harris — one of the motley crew of Democrats running for president — supports lowering the voting age to 16, as many in her party are pushing for. In fact, she thinks the lower the age, the better.


    Harris made the remarks at a town hall hosted by her pal, CNN opinion host Don Lemon.


    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/0...she-thinks-children-should-get-to-vote-747775

    Pick a day. On which day would you say she was perfect? Pick a subject she hasn't waffled on.
     
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    Smh. That was sarcastic humor.

    I didn't say she was perfect. Don't put words in my mouth. I said she was imperfect.
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    That's the problem, because if it's "politically" a perfect choice to let Mnuchin off the hook, we've got problems down the road.
     
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    They all suck really. Nobody stands for anything other than themselves winning and the others losing.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps, but in this current era of anti law enforcement sentiment from the progressive side, she would be a difficult pill to swallow.
    If the voters truly knew of her history, that is.

    Remember how Hillary's tough-on-crime political past didn't play so well to African American voters.
    (Though that could of course be cancelled out by the fact that she's Black)
     
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    To a good degree that is true. However, our history shows that social progress has been made over the decades regarding civil rights, consumer protections, etc. The more people get involved, the more responsive politicians become, in my experience.
     
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    Hillary's past regarding crime essentially embellished the legal and law enforcement system's congenital bias against the black and poor.

    Correcting corruption and inequality is not "anti-law enforcement". That is a lie put forth by those who do not wish to be held accountable by the public for their misdeeds.
     
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    My nobody was a reference to the parties and largely their candidates and office holders. Most of those progresses started at the grassroots level and became undeniable movements that the parties could no longer ignore. They didn't start with the parties having a brilliant idea and going out and finding support. The democrats did not have their evolutionary moments on gay marriage, for instance, until gays had a lot of wins already in their column. Same with the environmental movement. It is a pretty sad state of affairs when polling shows that most of his supporters don't like Biden but are only voting for him because they hate Trump.
     
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    Baseless? The nation just had a black female police chief resign because her Dem Party operated city voted to defund their police department WHILE rioting is still happening on a nightly basis.
     
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    That has nothing to do with Biden or Harris. Neither Biden nor Harris support defunding the police. It's a Trump lie.
     
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    Biden said that he would reassign funding . . . which is the same as defund. Or is it really just the theoretical difference between really, really rough sex and rape?
     
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    The graffiti in riot areas says otherwise.
     
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    "areas".....NOT THE ENTIRE BLM MOVEMENT, NOT THE MANTRA OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF DEMONSTRATIONS AND PROTESTS AGAINST POLICE & COURT ROOM CORRUPTION....NOT THE EMPHASIS OF CIVIL COMPLAINT REVIEW BOARD MOVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

    A matter of fact, a matter of history.
     
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    A very poor analogy.....reassigning funding doesn't mean you are depleting the police department of financial resources, but redistributing them....happens all the time in business, federal & domestic budgets, etc.

    And FYI: rough sex between 2 CONSENTING adults can reach Klingon mating ritual fervor if they want to. RAPE is an ATTACK on an UNWILLING person....sexual advance FORCED UPON AN UNWILLING/UNRECEPTIVE person, who becomes a victim. Capice'?
     
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    lol, it doesn’t matter if it is all of them or not. They have been branded as racist, socialist traitors to America, that want to burn our cities down for their own personal greed.
    It’s no different than the left painting everyone who supports keeping confederate statues up as racists and bigots, when only a small percentage are.
     
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    Very well worded. I can't think of a better description for this event.

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    Even if what you say is true - and I don't believe "small percentage" for a second - it doesn't matter. It's not about people's beliefs; it's about the images and what/who they represent. If you want to hang a picture of Lee in your bedroom, knock yourself out. A public square is not the place to memorialize people who were engaged in a civil war to preserve slavery. Not in 2020 in a diverse nation, where all men are created equal.
     
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    It's all cancelled out by the fact she's black, Asian and a woman. Like it or not, it's really no different than Trump voters cancelling everything out because Trump. Don't like that your SS check is late because a know-nothing yes man is now in charge of the PO? Just cancel that out, because Trump.

    I don't blame any minority nor women for feeling enthusiastic about Harris. A government of the people should look like the people.
     
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    And this is why your response is rendered worthless, "it doesn't matter....they have been branded" So by your "logic" facts don't need apply. typical MAGA hat wearer response. Carry on, my chuckling friend.
     

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