WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That is NOT what is in the video!

    Does the VICTIM raise his left hand in your video or are you watching a video game instead?
     
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    Not often you and I agree. This was straight up murder. The cops were in zero danger. Has he been charged with any damn thing at all?
     
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    So you CAN see a naked right hand in the pic, but you're saying that the cover officer wouldn't have seen it?
     
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    Are you sure this is always the case? I would think that during some situations, even without a warrant, not answering could be viewed as obstruction of justice.
     
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    Still under investigation.

    https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news...aker-back-body-camera-videos-show/5445779002/

    Compare that to what someone walking their dog heard.

    The caller could be liable for making a FALSE police report.

    This describes the shooting as per the content of the video.

    And here is where his gun was found at the scene.

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    That corroborates that he was COMPLYING and had no intention of shooting.
     
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    Difficult situation here.

    The man who was shot made two large mistakes:

    1. Don't open the door until you're sure who's on the other side
    2. If you do open the door and have a firearm, you need to make sure it's not visible. Ideally still in the holster with your hand on it.

    For someone who's never been shot at, they don't understand the split second decision you have to make to use your weapon.

    Doesn't look good from the video though.
     
  7. FatBack

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    What law compels you to interact with the police? Maybe some situations considered emergency outside of a warrant? They would need to prove you might not just be a deep sleeper. You rarely have little to gain in any interaction with the police. They are typically there to gather evidence (great reason to keep your mouth shut) and arrest someone.
     
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    I agree, why has this case not caused riots?

    (the "false report" might be a tall hill to climb)
     
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    There is nothing wrong with simply taking a nap and not being available. Of course it all depends on the situation. This departed soul would not be departed if he ignored them. And if you do answer, dont fall for the "can you step out here and talk to us" routine. You can then be arrested with no warrant. Not so in your home.
     
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    1. He probably shouldn't have opened the door but he could have risked having it kicked in. Maybe he didn't hear them say they were police officers (because the tv was too loud) but he probably should have asked before opening the door with a weapon.

    2. A weapon in a holster would be useless if there were criminals/would-be criminals on the other side of the door. They would clearly have the advantage if they were brandishing their own weapons. With that said, I usually think erring on the side of safety is a better approach.

    I strongly believe this situation could have been easily deescalated if the cops had bothered to try.
     
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    Never invite then inside, anything in open sight is fair game...whereas with a warrant, only people or objects named on said warrant are fair game, I believe anything else is called "fruit of a poisonous tree" and is inadmissible in a court of law. ****Disclaimer*** I'm not an attorney, none of my "advice" should be taken at face value. They are not asking to come inside for tea and crumpets and conversation
     
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    Because whites aren't filled with wickedness. Because whites aren't a cult, primed and loaded for revolt at the beck and call of media and political masters. Because the damage is already done. Because it's a local matter. Because whites rely on the justice system. Because whites are civil. The reasons are endless. Why wonder?
     
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    Some jurisdictions have penalties for false reporting since it is a waste of law enforcement resources.

    Cops word against the person reporting with an independent witness establishing no sounds of any violence would make it a hard case to defend especially given what he said to the 911 operator.
     
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    What if the victim was your Brother.
     
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    Agreed, sounded like a neighbor with an ax to grind.
     
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    Trumper lovers have a remarkable ability to do this.
     
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    Are stating/implying that non-whites are...

    a cult,
    filled with wickedness,
    primed and loaded for revolt at the beck and call of media and political masters,
    not reliant on the justice system, and
    not civil
    ?

    Further, are you suggesting that white people aren't concerned about unjustified police shootings because the damage is already done?
     
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  18. Injeun

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    He wanted to know why whites don't riot, loot, commit violence and burn down cities in response to a perceived injustice. If they did, they'd be wicked, uncivilized, overly emotional, foolish, maniacal, cult like and at the beck and call of their handlers in the media and politics. Yeah, I stand by that. And yes, we can see the killing in the video in this topic, and deem it unjust without losing our minds.
     
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    Thanks for clarifying that.
     
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    I think the message getting lost in all the race baiting is: don't trust a cop. Ever.
     
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    That's why defunding and reforming the police is necessary. Add it to the list of what BLM is fighting against.
     
  22. Injeun

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    I trust them. I just don't trifle with, taunt or temp them. I think LEO's are good people in general, and an absolute necessity in civilization. I respect them for the job they do.
     
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    Nonsense. One Police Officer makes one wrong split second decision..it does not discolor his entire service nor the profession. BLM on the other hand is just an impromptu band of thugs, who are as prone to violence and riots at any moment as any self serving mob who flare up over nothing.
     
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    Who said anything about respect? Necessity for civilization is debatable - especially the in current form. that said, I also respect them. They have a sh**y job and don't get paid nearly enough. I'd never do it for the measly pay they take home. But, I'd never trust one. They aren't your friend, their raison d'etre is to collect evidence against you. And, an incompetent officer can kill you dead.
     
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    I hear you. I've been stopped, questioned, ticketed and arrested a time or two. But in my experience, I've never even come close to being abused, jacked up, or killed by a LEO. Family members, fellow workers, strangers at bars and people driving SUV's are another story. People in general are nuts. I'm cautious with everyone.
     

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