Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Satan getting the boot and a full third of the heavenly host getting the same for thinking as they did.

    If I think you are dysfunctional my friend, This analogy being you god and me, me, ---- should I be condemned by you to such a great hardship as hell, --- for just thinking differently from what you want me to?

    Are you that mean?

    Not likely and neither would a real god. The myth is garbage.

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    He dis not. The dead stay dead. Check the definition.

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    Your presentations of my views

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    What you call life is just a vessel our soul is in for a blink of the eye and irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

    By putting so much stock in "humanity" as the ultimate form you are demonstrating that you really do not understand the concept of God.

    It's a rather simple minded view many people share with you.
     
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    Sure seems like you're putting a lot of "stock" in wishful thinking and childish fantasies, spooks...
     
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    Paul told us that faith is the evidence of things not seen. What the hell is that supposed to mean if not shut up I explained already and how dare you question God’s purpose as we explained to you (or Allah’s word for that matter)?
     
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    According to the biblical fairy tale, NO ONE WILL GO TO HEAVEN. The only person to ever go to heaven was the Jesus character. When people die they go to one of three places = death, the sea, or to hell. On Judgment Day everyone makes bail and are judged by their works and then get into the Golden Cube called New Jerusalem that is on a waterless planet that doesn't have any darkness or get tossed into the lake of fire, where the false prophet, the devil, and hell are. So no one will spend eternity in hell.

    Chances are you are thinking about the Islamic version of hell. Everyone gets resurrected on Judgment Day and the bad people (mostly women) get tossed into hell where they suffer eternal torment. The good guys get their own individual paradises in giant sea shells with a herd of cute boys, a couple of 90 foot translucent women creatures, and a harem of women. They also have eternal erections to go along with that.
     
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    When will you stop asking those hard questions?
     
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    Think about the fairy tale. When Adam & Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil they then knew the difference between them and became as God, to know the difference. Now, if such a God creature exists everything you think you know about reality could just be unique to you. No one else would have to exist and everything you know about history and current events could be a set-up to see how you will react to obviously evil events. Do you do anything when you see evil acts happen before your eyes? Do you extend mercy and help to those who need it? What are you doing with your God-like knowledge? Are you a good God or are you an evil devil?
     
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    I’m happy with roast beef and mashed potatoes and my family.
    No one needs to worship me nor do I feel a need to tend any of my universe creations.
    If people worship me it would be an irritation!
     
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    As it says in Isaiah 41:23 (ERV) = "What signs did you give in the past to prove that you really are gods? Do something! Do anything, good or bad, so that we can see that you are alive. Then we might fear and respect you."
     
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    I don’t want to be feared and don’t care if I am respected.
     
  13. Greatest I am

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    Simple minded is better than throwing your mind away to follow a fictional garbage god.

    Your morals have been corrupted by your religion if all you can do is follow a satanic genocidal god.

    Then again, you do not care about your satanic moral sense.

    Go ahead, embrace your genocidal god.

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    Never.

    Suppressing the hard questions is what made Christianity uppity and prone to use inquisitions against more moral people than themselves.

    The nicer the one asking, the more the immoral Christians gang up on him.

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    Christians were commanded to love thy neighbor yet they persecute those they dislike.
     
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    Christians set a really low bar when it comes to defining love.

    They call their god Love, while ignoring that genocidal is not a part or trait of one who should be called Love.

    Yahweh is more on the Hate side than Love side.

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    When I was a child researching and reading the Bible I was amazed at the harshness of a loving God who allowed an angel to gain the ability of parity of power. Then God tortures one of his most ardent followers to prove a point to Satan.I decided this religion was not for me.
     
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    Christians should have such a moral sense.

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    Dont pay any attention to that troll.
     
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    Someone can pat off your debt but they can never take away the fact you incurred that debt, the money can be repaid the responsibility can not.
     
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    That sounds like a distinction without a difference...

    I used to have debt = I no longer have that debt
     
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    Second that motion
     
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    It always reminded me of an abusive husband (god) and wife who continues to stay with him because they are in "love".
     
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    Think of it more like having gone through a bankruptcy. You no longer have the debt, because others suffered it for you, but you still have a history of having incurred it.
     
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    Who forgave that debt, and was the victim satisfied, as they have first dibs on forgiveness?

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