Am I one of the last undecided voters? Who should I vote for?

Trump has no views that he hasn't already contradicted several times and he is utterly unreliable on everything.

 

I will wait and see who else makes the ballot. I am not sure Howie is officially on my state's yet, but haven't checked in awhile. I agree with the libertarians on some things but their economic platforms never make a bit of sense to me. Not that she will realistically win, but those whole open borders and no trade restrictions or tariffs positions send shivers up my timbers.

 

There's nothing wrong with the system. Nobody's vote is irrelevant, but that type of thinking might be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Such thinking breeds apathy, IMO.

In reality, there are some contested races in every district, so while California will go to Biden, there will be a reason for Republicans to show up at the polls throughout the state.

 

For other elections, sure. For the presidential election, unless you live in a swing state, then practically speaking, your vote doesn't matter. I wish it weren't so, but it is. How my district goes doesn't really matter. My district doesn't get electoral college votes. Only the state does.

 

Yep. The system is fine. It simply reacts to the shifts in demographics. New York and the west coast go democrats, the heartland mostly goes republican and then the swing states which have a large percentage of both parties end up the decider.

 

You should run for office and vote for yourself that way there is no dilemma..

 

I appreciate the thought and analysis you put into the pros and cons of each side. I don't necessarily agree that everything on your "pro" list is a "pro" or that everything on your "con" list is a "con", but completely respect your right to see things from your own perspective. I do agree with many of your pro and con assessments, too.

This is a "yuck" election, like 2016 was. There were 13 candidates for president in 2016 (on the Texas ballot) and I did vote 3rd party, but had that luxury because Texas was safely "red" in 2016 and if I had to choose between Trump and Hillary, I would have voted Trump, holding my nose - knowing that he would be divisive and that you cannot take a Twitter Box away from a semi-grown adult.

Anyway....Are you in a swing state? If so, you should choose between Biden and Trump by election day. Your vote could seriously "count" for something in a swing state. If not, you really should think about any of the third-party candidates, just as a protest vote about us getting lousy "choices" election after election. If a third-party ever can reach 5% of the popular vote, they get federal election funds at the next election. I personally would like to break the two-party system and mentality, so I have voted 3rd party the last three elections, but also because I have general issues with the Democrat platform and Texas has been safely red until 2020.

This year, they are saying that Texas could go "blue", so I'm voting against Biden more than for Trump, and mainly because I agree with you about the "cons" you listed against Biden.

You have time. A lot can happen in politics between now and November 3rd. Watch the debates and keep up with what each campaign is saying. It's okay to still be undecided today. Something may come up that's a total deal breaker for you on one side or the other between now and election day. Very often in politics there is a strategic "October surprise" which either or both parties try to spring on the public. I usually do early voting when I'm absolutely sure, but in 2016, I waited until the very last day of early voting to watch polls and make sure I wanted to place a "protest vote" for an Independent.

Down ballot is just as important as President and your local elections will impact your life more directly than the federal election choice. I'd recommend studying who is running in your city and state elections over your Trump or Biden choice (particularly if you are not in a swing state).

You're way ahead of the game by taking the election seriously and not just being on one "team" no matter what. You're thinking about the consequences of your choice, which is more than what most voters do. For that, I applaud you. Stay Independent. Stay Strong!

 

Just my opinion here, but if you don't live in a swing state, and thus your vote actually counts, I have another suggestion. Pick which party you think will win the majority in Congress and then vote for the opposite party for the Presidency. At least that way there are some actual checks and balances.

 

This is true, but to me, voting is a responsibility. It's about having my voice heard. Winning is nice, but I'm still going to have my say, even if it's in a losing cause.

I mentioned districts because people will show up regardless of the predetermined outcome of the state's electoral votes. Those Republicans voting down-ballot surely are marking Trump as well.

 

If one is happy with the last 4 yrs, vote the incumbent.

If one does not like all that has happened in the last 4 yrs, vote for change.

 

That is a good question; for me I'll probably end up walking into the voting booth, hold my nose and write in my name for President.

I cannot stand a liar and a cheat which Trump is and I feel Biden is too old (no offense to the seniors in the forum) to serve. Both parties IMO are corrupt and a part of the same hypocrisy. What America needs is a fresh start with a party that consists of non-career politicians and represents the values the average American.

I realize there currently are no viable candidates to cast your ballots for, however now is the time to work on 2024 for form a party and cultivate good candidates for the Presidency and both houses of congress.

 

Oh, no argument here. For me, I'm voting *because* I think of it as a responsibility. I have no practical reasons, but it is kind of liberating in that way. I can truly vote my conscience.

 

Yes, I consider voting a civic duty even though I can't remember an election where I was actually "excited" to vote for the choices before me. Voting your conscience after thoroughly vetting the candidates and considering the post-election consequences is the best option, IMO.

 

Yeah, I mean - I'm in California. My vote really doesn't matter here - I was so dismayed by the choices in 2016 that if it weren't for the propositions, I might not have voted at all. I seriously considered voting Deadpool as a write-in. In the end, I voted against Hilla. And it's only gotten worse this cycle - I'm not a fan of Trump but it's a 2016 rerun all over again - I'm waiting for a reason to vote FOR Biden; I already know from the left why I should vote against Trump.

It's probably gonna come down to the debates for Biden to convince me to vote for him. At this point, the only reason I have is to help one of our posters finally get his first prediction right after four years on the board.

 

If you vote for Trump, Trump will do what Trump wants to do.

If you vote for Biden, Harris will do what the elite corporate-political establishment wants her to do.

The people that like the status quo hate Trump and love Harris, and I don't think anyone expects Biden to stay in office long. So how do you feel about the status quo?

 

Covid destruction...

 

No matter what system you use somebody's vote doesn't matter the only state that matters without the EC is California which at the moment is increasingly a disaster.

 

Without the EC, it wouldn't be based on states. Not saying we shouldn't have the EC, but the whole "without the EC only California matters" argument is complete hogwash, complete nonsense. It's a fake argument.

 

No it isn't it's the reality. Hillary won California by 4 million she lost every where else by one million.

 

If you think we need vastly more government and the tax code to support it along with so many rules and regulations that the small businesses that covid hasn't already killed will choke to death on red tape, vote Democrat.

 

I am a centrist too. Last elections I voted for Hillary.
This election I’m voting for Trump because to me it boils down to this - a vote for a democrat is a stamp of approval for riots and looting. I know that if Trump wins there will be riots and looting for next couple of months, but at least the Dem politicians will get the message that normal public does not support violence. I treat my vote for Trump as punishment to democrats.

 

Another way to look at it is how much government do you want in your life?

 

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Savvy investors know what is overvalued and what is not. 1995 was an exceptionally good year for the Dow but it was just north of 5000 it's more than five times that now. The number of companies in the 90s has nothing to do with today's market.

 

If you are not part of the solution...

 

No matter how I hate Trump, I will vote for Trump.
Democrat party is a party of racial and gender wars, they support crime and illegal immigration, they also promote pederasty.
It is simply unsafe and dangerous not to vote for a Trump.