I Say Enough Is Enough

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Just A Man, Aug 17, 2020.

  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    12,493
    Likes Received:
    9,511
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I was thinking just yesterday the USA is heading for a serious struggle. We have a major civil uprising in our cities (BLM, Antifa, militant blacks, militant democrats, militant whites, militant republicans, trouble makers, liberals - and the MSM making excuses for them). And along with that the covid-19 virus that is shutting down our economy. How much longer can we continue to send millions of people $400 a month? How much longer can the government demand businesses be closed? How much longer can landlords not receive rent from their tenants? What are the long term effects of closing schools? How much longer can a bank not receive mortgage payments? We need to open up the country, get back to work, or we are going to end up in a severe depression that could last for years. And the depression could come on strong in just a couple of days. We'll have to take our chances with the virus. I hope the republicans join with Trump in this coming election and make a sweep. We need to send a signal that "enough is enough". Trump is right.
     
    ButterBalls, Guess Who, RodB and 2 others like this.
  2. Diablo

    Diablo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,792
    Likes Received:
    2,332
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    170,000 dead so far............
     
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2020
    Cosmo and Lucifer like this.
  3. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    24,398
    Likes Received:
    15,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The tragic irony of this selfish line of thinking is that things would be much better now, and the economy more able to open up, if trump and his worshippers had put on their masks, practiced social distancing and acted like responsible people instead of selfish idiots when it all began.
     
    Arkanis, Cosmo, Lesh and 1 other person like this.
  4. joesnagg

    joesnagg Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2020
    Messages:
    4,749
    Likes Received:
    6,799
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Which in the end means SQUAT! At some point economic reality will take over. The historic "Spanish Flu" killed over 500,000 Americans and over 50 million worldwide, this in a time with NO effective treatments and NO antibiotics to treat secondary infections. Most notably there wasn't the screeching, hand-ringing apocalyptical hysteria we're seeing today. Is collapsing the economy, with the accompanying food shortages, utility, transportation and social disruptions really going to "save" us? Is making a "cure" that's vastly worse than the disease the way to go? In the end we have to do what humans have always done, PERSEVERE. Some WILL die, but many more WILL live. Had our ancestors been possessed with todays attitudes this discussion would be moot, we'd still be living in caves.
     
    RodB likes this.
  5. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,765
    Likes Received:
    3,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We need to stop acting like this is something we can keep throwing short term patches at. It will take at least 2 full years before we can get a grasp on the permanency of the damage done. Just reopening doors does not mean those doors are staying open. We are going to see business owners close enough to retirement just hang it up rather than take the risk of dying. Half our restaurants will shutter for good and we won't know how consumers will react to fewer restaurants or whether new ones will open. The deaths/cases are only the tip of the iceberg.
     
    Booman likes this.
  6. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    21,436
    Likes Received:
    12,227
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Dirty Donald is doing what he has always done, put it on the TAXPAYERS CREDIT CARD.
     
    Cosmo and Lucifer like this.
  7. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,133
    Likes Received:
    32,974
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ask trump as he just executive ordered this

    Ask trump as he just executive ordered this be extended

    So you have had enough of trump’s policy and his complete failure that has allowed our nation to have one of the worst response to the virus that has left 170000 people dead — yet you want to reelect him?
    Strange

    I agree with you though, enough is enough. See you in three months
     
    Cosmo and Lucifer like this.
  8. Booman

    Booman Banned

    Joined:
    May 19, 2020
    Messages:
    3,161
    Likes Received:
    2,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And those that will suffer the most live in neighborhoods with economies that are already depressed or fragile.
     
    ButterBalls and Chrizton like this.
  9. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Messages:
    27,756
    Likes Received:
    3,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Most of those people were old and dying. They didn't die of COVID, they died of underlying causes. They call them COVID deaths to inflate the numbers.
     
  10. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,765
    Likes Received:
    3,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    For the most part you are correct. My city has spent decades crawling out of the economic hole create by corporate raiding, NAFTA/GATT/WTO and the war on tobacco. This hasn't been as bad for us as it has for some people because we have already been smacked to the ground time after time after time over the last 30-40 years. A lot of places are about to learn what that is like. I personally think most of America needs to reframe their thinking from how do we restart the good times and start thinking about how the hell are we going to manage the fall. We are not at the bottom yet. Unfortunately, it looks like we aren't even close to the bottom yet.
     
  11. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Fake news
     
    Bravo Duck likes this.
  12. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Messages:
    27,756
    Likes Received:
    3,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Most of thd dead are in the bluest of the blue states so my guess is it's dead democrats who failed to follow social distancing guidelines.
     
    Bravo Duck likes this.
  13. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Or maybe if the leftist rioters in 23 states infecting millions weren't out with their fake peaceful protesting.
     
    Bravo Duck likes this.
  14. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    First post is every leftist on this forum.

    Second post is every leftist on this forum when it's where they live.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Those items were already in the relief package Democrats signed on. Trump signed them into a EO so Democrats didn't try and give billions to non related leftist organizations in their pork filled bill.

    If I remember correctly it was Trump ordering travel restrictions from China the same day Pelosi was trying to pass the NO BAN ACT to allow anyone to come into the US.

    Wasn't it Pelosi who on February 23 was asking people to come to Chinatown as she claimed her state had everything under control spreading the virus to thousands

    Wasn't it Cuomo on that same day telling everyone to ride the subways and go to concerts that his state had it under control in the exact city that has the worst death ratio of the entire country.

    Isn't it 23 Democrat Mayors and Governors that are allowing millions to protest and spread the virus while refusing to allow their police to put these riots down.
     
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2020
    ButterBalls and Bravo Duck like this.
  16. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,133
    Likes Received:
    32,974
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ah, so trump did the things that the OP is opining about to prevent one half of the legislature from doing even worse. Got it! Perfect sense!

    I raise your February and give you March:
    upload_2020-8-17_19-2-13.png

    The president was informed of the outbreak in January, congress was not.
     
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2020
    Cosmo and Lucifer like this.
  17. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    27,360
    Likes Received:
    8,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The numbers are false, other than it is true that Democratic governors killed tens of thousands of elderly in nursing homes deliberately.
     
  18. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,133
    Likes Received:
    32,974
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It is actually those over the age of 60 that represent most of the dead — a key Republican constituency. Over 40% of which were in assisted living facilities and nursing homes. Your callousness is interesting next to your avatar
     
    Cosmo and Lucifer like this.
  19. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,133
    Likes Received:
    32,974
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Most likely it is much higher, numbers have been floated higher than 200,000
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  20. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,791
    Likes Received:
    9,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Let's just call the current incarnation of the Republican Party, the Death Party. Okay?
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  21. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nope, Trump wrote his EO with only the items needed for the support bill and not the billions Democrats wanted for their own political agenda.

    So you think Pelosi and Cuomo didn't know anything about the virus? laughable.

    So other than the lame leftist exaggerated fake talking points, heres what Trump actually did.
    1. While Democrats were focused on their impeachment sham, Trump took swift and decisive action to stop travel from China in January and enhanced airport screenings to help stop cases from coming into the United States as long as possible.

    2. In order to accurately trace and combat this virus, Trump set out to build our testing system, and we have already conducted more than 65 million tests, far outpacing any other country.

    3. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx have attested to the fact that President Trump took action as soon as the data was presented to him.

    4. Trump ordered private companies to shift production to supplying masks, ventilators, hand sanitizer, testing supplies, and more and has acted under the Defense Production Act more than 30 times to ensure we have the supplies we need.

    5. His administration revolutionized the clinical trial process to ensure Americans get a safe vaccine as quickly as possible, by providing unprecedented investments in leading vaccine candidates to simultaneously produce them as they are tested and developed.

    6. Negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program helping save 51 million American jobs.

    7. Took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus.

    8. Has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread

    9. Held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans. The same WHO that told the US there is no spread from humans all the way to January 18.

    What have Democrats done?

    23 Democrat Mayors and Governors allowing rioting and killing in their cities for two solid months
    Refusing to allow law enforcement of the National Guard to help stop the riots
    Burned down their own cities
    Murdered cops
    Killed store owners
    Blocked interstates
    Tore down statues
    Supporting BLM and Antifa
    Reporting false numbers of Covid deaths
     
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2020
    ButterBalls and Bravo Duck like this.
  22. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,133
    Likes Received:
    32,974
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You should at minimum give a source credit before you steal their work
    Even if the vast majority of it is bullshit
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  23. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If you need links to the most common knowledge of what Trump has done and what 23 Democrat Mayors and Governors have done, I will be more than happy to provide any link you need.

    Please tell me from my list, which ones you are unfamiliar with as I did it from memory.
     
    ButterBalls and Rush_is_Right like this.
  24. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Messages:
    27,756
    Likes Received:
    3,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Everyone dies. You assume democrats don't get old or that as they get older they migrate to cities and become republican due to their age. No, these are grandma and grandpa liberal democrats callously killed by liberal Democrat governors who sent COVID positive patients into their assisted living facilities and nursing homes to kill them so they could have a higher death count, panic the people into shutting down the economy in order to hurt President Trump's reelection.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  25. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    12,493
    Likes Received:
    9,511
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Stop the finger pointing!!! Open up our country and get on with living!!! Some will die, it's nature calling the shots but we have medical facilities to fight against nature, yet some will still die. Many will die of many other causes. We have to stop destroying the country. We have to be brave and face adversity while depending on our own personal responsibilities. I'm willing to take the chance.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.

Share This Page