Palestinian Girl Cries As Israelis Bulldoze Her Home

built without permits

 

How can any citizen assume self determination within his country ?? you mean voting rights? civil rights ?

 

LOL! You must be joking comparing Palestine with Northern Ireland. What does Israel mean by "peace" = the continuation of land-grabbing and only resorting to war if the Palestinians resist. What a wonderful offer!

 

The Arab "united list" party is the 2nd or 3rd largest parties in the Parliament.
Self Determination is a League of Nations ancient right for nations to declare their own countries, not to set countries within countries.

 

ANSWER: Irrelevant.

 

Oh! That's not the same thing!

 

This is both Israel's ridicule of Palestinians ...... but also its biggest fear. But don't worry: If one of their rockets go astray and hits a school by mistake the Israels will claim it was an intentional attack on children ..... and talk about how accurate their missiles are.

 

You mean, like Muslims took over Palestine?

 

This amounts to a "promise" and we all know how well Israel keeps its promises. If they can't find a spun incident with which to renege on their promise they'll just concoct another Black Flag operation for the same end.

"Beads" are real. Promises are not.

 

I do not mean anything by it it is one of the Basic Laws of Israel I was asking if an Israeli could explain it, after all it is not my country so who better than an Israeli to explain it.

The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.

It appears none want too.

 

Thank you, but you do not address my question which is why is it required to differentiate between non Jewish and Jewish, could you address that perhaps?

 

It doesn't matter. It is a COMBAT response for non-combat provocation.

 

Sorry, I do not deal in possibilities

But if they' not terrorist' family, the Israeli Government has other valid reasons to raize this building, I'm sure.

 

If you like, but I would think like the Jews who would not give up hope of taking back their land even after 2000 years in exile. People do not give up what they consider top be their land even if they were not born there or even if generation after generation have not lived there. Why expect the Palestinians to be any different?

 

Jews are the indigenous people of the land. There were always Jewish communities in Palestine, in places like Gaza, Silwan, Hebron, places claimed today as pure Arab from time immemorial.

Can't you see that Arab propaganda is turning history on its head? Are Jews the indigenous people of the land, descendants of Canaanites? Palestinians claim to be the indigenous people of Palestine, straight from the Canaanites. Were Jews persecuted wherever they went? Palestinians claim they are the most persecuted people (they are in Arab countries). Did Jews live in ghettos? Palestinians claim they are corralled in ghettos (in Lebanon and Syria they really are). Were Jews marked for extermination in Europe? Palestinians claim the Zionists marked them for extermination. Is Jerusalem holy to Jews? Jerusalem miraculously became holy for Muslims. Can't you see that Arabs are trying to take over Jewish history and Jewish suffering, make them theirs, and erase Jewish presence in Palestine from collective memory? Can't you see that, given that Arabs (anti-Zionists in general) think that Jews received Palestine because of the Holocaust, Arabs pretend to be in the exact same situation as Jews were in order to gain legitimacy for their claims?

Arabs are impersonating Jews.

Whenever I write "Arabs", I mean the policy makers, of course.

 

I was merely pointing out that people do not like to give up the land they consider theirs and Jews are an excellent example of it. I am really not interested in whether your historical claims are better than anyone else. Now how about the much more interesting question I asked you that you have not responded to?

So perhaps you could explain why Israel has to differentiate between Jews and Non Jews?

 

Duh - Uh

A 2/3rds majority of the General Assembly

 

Which had what to do with the establishment of Israel?

 

Sounds more like a concept, embraced and made into law in Israel. Each nation makes their own. Israels self determination sounds like a brother to America's declaration of the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But once you leave America, you also leave behind your American constitutional rights and are beholden to the laws and values of whatever country you visit. If I am correct, then I assume it is the same with an Israeli Jew?

 

Some of your questions have no answer, because the premises are either false or unproven. Following your logic, Jews should ask for a country wherever there were large Jewish communities. Poland, watch out!

Arabs never had a country in Palestine, so there was nothing to give up to begin with.

Please explain why should Palestinian Arabs, and only Palestinian Arabs, get their own country on a territory that was never theirs, just because they're descendants of an ethnic group that migrated to Palestine while it was a province of the Ottoman Empire. Please explain why shouldn't Jews get their own countries on each territory that was never theirs, just because they're descendants of a nation that migrated to each of those territories.

Israeli Jews have to serve in the army. Non-Jews don't have to. That's the difference. Do you think Israel should not differentiate and conscript everyone regardless?

 

Ok I hoped for an honest answer instead you have made up things I have never argued I guessed you would, I think were done. You have exposed what you are.

 

No in the constitution of the USA everyone who becomes a US citizen becomes a US National, so you would think that an Israeli Citizen is a Israeli National, but here is the elephant in the room, there is no such thing as an Israeli National.

People are often confused by the difference between citizenship and nationality when it comes to Israel. This issue most recently came up in the spat between Israeli celebrity Rotem Sela who asked, “when will anyone in this government tell the public that this is a state of all its citizens,” to which Prime Minister Netanyahu replied it wasn’t, and said that it was a nation state of Jews alone.
https://mondoweiss.net/2019/03/understanding-citizenship-nationality/

Interesting isn't it?

 

No by my logic people fight for the land they perceive to be theirs, I made no comments on who has the right to any land, you have simply falsified that.

Show where I suggest they had, you have just made this up.

Why, I have not made any comments regarding your imaginings above, please stop making things up.

I see no reason to discriminate who fights in the armed services based on their race, ethnicity or religion, why do you believe in discrimination?

This shows the problem with debating anything about Israel neither side wish to discuss the issues they just want to get their propaganda across.

 

That was an honest answer. I tried to show you why your question is based on a false premise, making it impossible to answer.

 

Rubbish there is no dodging that the law differentiates between Jew and non Jew I asked why, where is the false premise?

The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.
The state views the development of Jewish settlement as a national value and will act to encourage and promote its establishment and consolidation.