Rep. Cooper: We may have to arrest Postmaster General

If you steal my ballot, there is NOTHING you could do with it other than use it as a fire starter.

And, I could get a replacement ballot for the asking.

Are you suggesting that someone is going to knock over USPS sites to steal ballots being mailed in??

You must think that hackers are stupid! The machines many polling places use are ancient and have proven to be easily hackable. Also, many have no paper trail, meaning that there isn't even any possibility of a recount.

My ballot is registered as having been couned only after my signature has been verified and the ballot has been counted.

Nobody can trace how I voted. Tracking the ballot is not the same as tracking the content of the ballot.

You clearly are CLUELESS on this topic.

So, you believe TRUMP and his administration's assault on the USPS.

 

No telling to what ends they will go and you may not have time to get a replacement and vote. Or they could submit a fake instead.








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But that is just one problem.

They aren't online to be hacked. They are checked and calibrated before and after the voting and both parties and any independents can have representatives there to monitor.

Verified by whom FBI forensic experts? When is it counted if it comes in at the last minute? Why do you have government officials your ballot with your name on it?

Is the content of your vote in the package you send them?

So you swallowed this Democrat canard hook line and sinker

 

I don't care, I know what the PMG and Postal Service said. Why do you believe Trump, whatever he said, over them?

 

I've LONG pointed out that EVERY state has vote by mail and that the security holes in the vote by mail systems in some states need to be fixed - REGARDLESS of how these states choose to run elections in the future.

The CLAIM by this administration and others is that these systems can't be fixed. But, that is absolutely false. It took WA a VERY short period of time to make our system secure. The same is happening in numerous states all across America.

This is just nosense. Hackers are WAY better than that. And, the idea that a "representative" can detect defects in the results is just plain SILLY.

The code identifying my voter registration database entry is removed by the counting machine. That code is used to compare my signature to my voter registration database signature - without my ballot markings being visible to anyone.

There is no canard here.

A good number of states are using the kind of system my state uses. It is working very well.

AND, it means that the many forms of criminality and anti democracy surrounding polling places is totally eliminated.

 

Think about what you just said!!!

Yes, I agree that Trump is a serial liar and can not be rusted in anything he says. Ever.

Nevertheless, what he says has the power of the executive branch of the USA, and it can not be igored.

 

Some folks really have the ability to believe any wild and crazy thing the Left comes up with, and Trump is unique in that he doesn't give in to their tantrums. Were Trump dumb enough to do what Pelosi is demanding, and Bush, Romney, McCain, Kasich, that little guy from FL could have easily given into her, she could end up snarling the election so badly that no one can figure out who won, and at noon on Jan 20, Pelosi could assume the powers of the presidency.

Thank Goodness Donald Trump is our President!

 

Naw there will be an electoral college vote for those states which manage to certify their election results even if that means that some state legislatures toss the election and chose the electors themselves. The STATES will protect THEIR enfranchisement.

 

I didn't agree Trump is serial liar but if you believe so why are you believing him, whatever it is you are claiming he said you provided no direct quote or link, over the PMG and the Postal service itself?

 

And I've long pointed out the problems and cited example and it is folly to believe that states which have no mail-in voting are going to be able to switch all voting to mail-in so first that it will work at all and second be sercure. Those examples I posted are just a very small sampling of examples in established vote by mail systems.

They are NEVER ONLINE for a hacker to even access. But the machines are calibrated and test with known result ballots to confirm the accurate counts before the voted and then immediately afterwards with representatives of both parties and anyone else on the ballot to witness the accurate results. How do you do that with mail in voting when government officials have to handle the ballots which come in assigned to a voter and they are suddenly expert forensic hand writing experts.

It comes it with YOUR name, YOUR signature and YOUR vote into the hands of government officials and handled by them between your marking the ballot and it getting into a machine. No thank you, I place my ballot into the tabulating machine and I believe they are bringing online machines that will print a hard copy for the voter.

Up to your elbows in it. The Post Service has PLENTY of capacity to handle this small blip in volume if EVERY voter voted mail in it would not even be a 2% increase.

A good number of states are using the kind of system my state uses. It is working very well.

AND, it means that the many forms of criminality and anti democracy surrounding polling places is totally eliminated.[/QUOTE]

Over 500,000 ballots went uncounted in the primary elections, doesn't sound like the systems are working so well. And election had to be tossed in NY. Weeks to get results.

I voted yesterday in under 3 minutes and personally know my vote counted and count for me.

 

I believe the effect he has on our nation.

He promotes acommodation of white supremacy.

He promotes the use of our executive branch for personal gain at the expense of taxpayers and the justice to which they have a right. And, he fully extends that to assaulting our democracy at taxpayer expense.

Whether he MEANS what he says is pretty much irrelevant. Who the heck knows WHAT he believes - his own sister and neice certainly point to the fact that they can't see anything he has EVER stood for as a principle.

 

Oh geez now you throw WHITE SUPREMACY on the wall to see if that will stick................spare me you can't discuss the issue here.

 

You have not pointed out ONE SINGLE PROBLEM with the systems employed in Utah, California, Oregon, Washington and other states that have secure vote by mail. You ahve NO CLUE concerning how little time it took to move to these forms of voting. You ignore that secure vote by mail is needed by EVERY state in order to securely handle "absentee" voting, including our military overseas and others who won't be present even within the state.

I'd ask you to think through what you say before you make more unbelievably nonsensical claims.

They do not have to be online to be hacked. And, hacks can be made to detect when actual voing is taking place.

Your last sentences don't even make sense.

There are machines that will be used in THIS election that have NO POSSIBILITY of leaving a paper trail that could be used in a recount.

More importantly, in-person voting has NO more security and it offers NUMEROUS opportunities for those in power to make it hard to impossible for those that they do NOT want to vote at all.

Your ideas address NONE of those opportunities for crime - the elimination and movement of polling sites, the unequal allocation of hardware and other issues alone ARE BEIING USED to leave LONG LINES at some polling places while other polling places offer nearly immedicate voting.

And, as you will remember I stated a whole list of other opportunities for assaulting democracy by requiring in-person voting and then assaulting that voting methodology.

Again, Trump stated that by the time he got through with it, that would NOT be the case.

That's a totally empty claim.

And, your experience in voting has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the experience of minorities that the controlling GOP party so deeply hates.

We've seen long lines in every place where the vote is less likely to be GOP. Rural poor, inner city labor, at universities, etc.

That is not an accident. That is government in control, using polling places as a way of ensuring that the candidates they like can win regardless of what the population wants.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

Trump trying to steal the election

 

U.S. Postal Service Spent $522 Million on Questionable Overtime Last Year, Watchdog Says
Inspector general’s office says 42% of all postal workers logged unauthorized overtime last year

Postmaster General Louis DeJoy has highlighted runaway overtime expenses to show inefficiencies at the U.S. Postal Service, which is on track to lose more than $10 billion this year.

His watchdog agrees that changes need to be made.Another highlighted a maintenance mechanic who earned nearly $125,000 in overtime pay, triple the employee’s base salary, including some days with more than 19 overtime hours worked.


They were among the 4,008 postal workers whose overtime earnings in fiscal 2019 exceed their regular pay, up from 758 six years ago.


In a new report, the Office of Inspector General for the Postal Service criticized the agency’s handling of overtime expenses, which totaled more than $5 billion last fiscal year. The report found an estimated $522 million in questionable overtime costs last year and 42% of postal workers logged unauthorized overtime. More than 4,000 employees made more in overtime than regular pay last year, according to the report, which was dated Aug. 25....

....The inspector general’s office said it began its overtime audit before Mr. DeJoy was appointed and its findings don’t reflect the effects of the pandemic on the Postal Service
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-po...r-watchdog-says-11598468331?mod=hp_lista_pos3

They have plenty of money they need better people.

 

To get better people, corporations offer better compensation and improved job descriptions.

 

They not only get paid just fine for the jobs they do with lots of benefits they get a top dollar retirement and lifetime health benefits. They also know they can apparantely get away with ripping of the service......FORTY-TWO PERCENT have cheated.

Dejoy needs to clean house and get rid of all the cheating employees and THERE is the money they need to operate.

 

There are two issues - long term plans for the USPS and the near term assault by the executive branch on the USPS in support of the Trump reelection campaign.

Don't keep mixing the two.

 

There is no "near term assault" the postal service has been cutting back for years.

 

Reread my post.

I clearly referred to the use of the executive branch to assault our coming election in favor of his own campaign.

And that has nothing to do with the years long effort to define and meet the service and performance measures that we want for our federal postal system.

 

There is no assault on anything the Postal Service can handle the small blip in volume and yes the Postal Service has been cutting back for years, their letter volume is HALF what it was twenty years ago.

 

You clearly don't listen to Trump.

 

And?

 

This conspiracy theory is baseless and always has been. Democrats want a massive bailout and they're not going to get it, instead we'll slim down, cut costs and make it more efficient.