The Ultimate Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what's a ball earth? Noooooooooo don't tell me you are you a real honest to god flat earther. er, are you?
     
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    Since we have no way of knowing, one way or the other, it just seems to me that it is the psychology of the person which dictates beliefs. The optimist will believe in some intelligent force being the creator while the pessimist will choose to believe it was pure chance and there is no greater meaning. Given this, it is a more positive thing to side with the optimists, for at least they have something to offer, while the pessimist has nothing to offer anyone. Who wants to side with such pessimists, such negative minds? Nothing constructive in that nor do they have anything to offer humanity, except a dreary, cloudy, monday morning of hopelessness. Quite neurotic, IMO. lol. Perhaps then, atheism is a neurosis?
     
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    :roll:

    i have no desire to engage in an irrational 'debate'. So you can go back to insults, & i'll go back to ignoring you.

    Try to follow the topic.. not everything is about you & your single vision issue. ..but i will likely never know...
     
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    back on the topic.. :D

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    The old kinda of liberals would debate, but not the new,modern faux liberals. Gore Vidal was such a great, clever, but honest liberal debater. I love watching him and Wm. F. Buckely. And this kind of liberal is dead and gone. Never would his debate consist of calling the other person stupid. Nor would he try to weasel out of debate by pulling out everything but the kitchen sink. It makes one wonder if these modern liberals can logically, rationally debate anything. It just seems in their arrogance they believe their beliefs to be true, so there is no need to debate. Just call the other guy names, and that is their debate. LOL Gore Vidal would be so ashamed of these kind of people. But I reckon it is just the times we live in. The Hindus have a name for it, Kali Yuga, I think but don't quote me on that term. But it is when everything goes to hell, and logic, rationality and reason are in entropy. But it seems to be modern liberals who are in mental entropy.
     
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    I think it was Freud who said...life is a disease with a very bad prognosis.

    I think Jung was a bit more positive.
     
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    i just commented on yor truthfulness and argument style.

    That isn't inappropriate in any discussion.
     
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    This is a human conceit.
    Life and the universe emerged long before humans and will continue long after we are gone. Whether we understand the origins is imortant only to the degree it obsesses us
    a human preoccupation of no particular significance
    Likewise
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    Well, i do not see human reality confirming this perspective. I see human beings, for millennia, grappling with these Questions, & some devoting their lives to them. It is a very serious business, this philosophizing about life, & we humans have not taken it lightly, or considered it 'insignificant'.

    It seems more to me, that you are merely expressing YOUR opinion of '42!' as your preferred answer. That is fine. But how can you dismiss all others, as they ponder these mysteries of life?
     
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    The earth is flat.......and motionless. Just as your senses tell you. It requires somebody else to convince you otherwise. And that is what has happened.
     
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    right I remember now. I rest assured that nobody tried to convince you.
     
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    I am expressing my own view
    Obviously, lots of things other people have different views
    I acknowledge their personal right to have and express such views
    I would also observe that even five millennia is a tiny fragment of human history... let alone the history of the earth ... let alone the even longer history of the universe

    But even leaving all those considerations behind... there is no particular evidence that other recent cultures have been nearly so obsessed about these questions as our culture seems to be. What do Aztecs think? Or the celts, ot the goths, or the Ethiopians, or the Assyrians, or the mongols, or the eskimos.. IMO, when looked at from a broader perspective, these
    questions and our obsession with them are an artifact of a very narrow and particular culture

    I am not saying this makes it inherently wrong.... just pointing out that our cultural absession with all this does not make thes ideas inherently tight, or even inherently important...(other than the subjective importance that we ascribe )
     
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    I think that AA was correct..... we are living in A MULTIVERSE!!!!

    This is the only way that I can explain some of the more accurate predictions about the future!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ine-christian-psychic.577498/#post-1071997771
     
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    What do you think of the idea of living and dying again and again and again and again and again as multiple versions of you are created in non-linear time?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ine-christian-psychic.577498/#post-1071997771

    Why?

    Because the Creator has already invested INFINITE TIME in the past in the spiritual part of you and I that existed even before we were conceived...... and our Creator wants to lead us up to a level of consciousness where we can feel comfortable in the higher energetic heavenly realms of existence.



    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

     
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    I was actually saying think about it because when you accept that life will be hard you will be much more appreciative and pay attention to the times it is not....more stopping to smell the flowers. When you know you will eventually die you want to live while you can and take in the beauty while avoiding negativity.

    As for a creator putting my souls on a conveyor belt of time.....whatever turns your crank Dennis.
     
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    Put a series of balloons place in a line a thousand feet apart.

    The balloons will disappear behind the horizon because the earth is not flat. This little bit of geometry has been around for nearly half a millennia...

    But I imagine you will want to keep hiding in the Dark Ages.
     
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    "This insouciance brings down the scorn of both kinds of Philosophers upon the pragmatist. The Platonist sees the pragmatist as merely a fuzzy-minded sort of positivist. The positivist sees him as lending aid and comfort to Platonism by leveling down the distinction between Objective Truth – the sort of true sentence attained by “the scientific method” – and sentences which lack the precious “correspondence to reality” which only that method can induce. Both join in thinking the pragmatist is not really a philosopher, on the ground that he is not a Philosopher. The pragmatist tries to defend himself by saying that one can be a philosopher precisely by being anti-Philosophical, that the best way to make things hang together is to step back from the issues between Platonists and positivists, and thereby give up the presuppositions of Philosophy.

    One difficulty the pragmatist has in making his position clear, therefore, is that he must struggle with the positivist for the position of radical anti-Platonist. He wants to attack Plato with different weapons from those of the positivist, but at first glance he looks like just another variety of positivist. He shares with the positivist the Baconian and Hobbesian notion that knowledge is power, a tool for coping with reality. But he carries this Baconian point through to its extreme, as the positivist does not. He drops the notion of truth as correspondence with reality altogether, and says that modern science does not enable us to cope because it corresponds, it just plain enables us to cope. His argument for the view is that several hundred years of effort have failed to make interesting sense of the notion of “correspondence” (either of thoughts to things or of words to things). The pragmatist takes the moral of this discouraging history to be that “true sentences work because they correspond to the way things are” is no more illuminating than “it is right because it fulfils the Moral Law.” Both remarks, in the pragmatist’s eyes, are empty metaphysical compliments – harmless as rhetorical pats on the back to the successful inquirer or agent, but troublesome if taken seriously and “clarified” philosophically."

    This extends to religious thinking, as such things tend to have an undergirding that use some of the language and values of traditional philosophy.

    But let me shorten that down to a single sentence. It's just language.


    https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/us/rorty.htm
     
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    Good point..... our admitting that life is hard will indeed inspire us to be generally more thankful for the best parts of this life, which is of course the time that we get to spend with our family and good friends.

    Yes.... the idea that our Creator composed of, (I assume) something like fundamental energy does indeed make me happier and more thankful for the privilege of being alive on August 27, 2020.
     
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    Everyone has a crank, it seems..

    ..avoiding negativity?
    :roflol:
     
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    What difference does it make, if you are 'thankful' for random events in your life, or bitter, or indifferent?

    If your soul.. or essence.. or whatever.. is an impersonal energy blob, returning to some impersonal source, there is not much to be thankful for. You live in meaningless existence, and die in meaningless existence. Existential resignation is more appropriate. ..despair over the meaninglessness of it all..

    ..perhaps '42' is the answer. Perhaps all is dream, and we don't even exist. Perhaps we are random accidents of nature, in a godless universe. Perhaps there is a Creator/God, who holds us accountable for our thoughts, words, and actions.

    This world is full of confusion, lies, and disinformation. How does one determine Truth, in such circumstances?
     
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    Have you ever wondered why you are ignored so often?
     
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    :roflol:

    More funnies! :D

    Me? Ignored?

    Attacked, vilified, accused, maybe, but ignored? :confusion:

    No, i never wonder that. I am amazed at the levels of hostility, ignorance, and false narratives, that progressive indoctrinees display, CONSTANTLY, in this and other public forums. I wonder at the success of Indoctrination, that these poor deluded souls have been subjected to.

    I always thought you guys drew straws, to see who was going to follow me around, reviling and attacking me, personally, until they got a rise, then report to sympathetic mods for banning or other infractions.

    Is the strategy 'ignoring!', now?

    :roflol:
     
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    According to sources such as Robert Monroe, each individual soul has a unique I.D., a particular combination of frequencies, a kind of energy signature. In the noncorporeal state, one can travel to meet a familiar friend just by tuning in to the friend's I.D. pattern.

    It's a matter of sorting out the consistencies and correlations that make sense and support an overall mindset that seems satisfactory.
     

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