The Very Worst People On Earth Are Backing Joe Biden

~ Indeed ! China has been doing nothing but blunders since Carrot Top came on the scene. The CCP idiots can't control Mr. Carrot like they could with previous figure heads that have bungled in the Big House.
The Wuhan virus may just be China's last big goof-up.

 

Trump has been handling China like a champ.

Its no wonder China prefers Joe, and even Pelosi agrees.

 

You say this - but don't back it up with anything .

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If only the above were true. Unfortunately the reverse is true.

1) China are not idiots - underestimating your opponent is a blunder - as is overestimating your own position on the board - of which Trump but also his team in general are guilty ..

2) What Chinese blunders are you referring to ? other than Wuhan - I agree that they messed up here but this has little to do with relative position on the chessboard - prior to covid - Covid was a wildcard that just popped up and had nothing to do with Trump mastering China - other than making political wind China's blunder - which is fine. The point here is that this is not really part of the assessment of the geopolitical economic chessboard

ON which - we have been getting our backside handed to us. The Carrot Top crew made a bold move on the board. Was bold - but also very risky. I am referring "NOT" to the unilateral Iran Sanctions themselves - but to the use of the economic "Nuclear Option" to force the nations of the world to abide by these Sanctions.

While this tactic worked win the Pawn - we ended up losing a our Queen. The move backfired - and we have been getting our backside handed to us - ever since - talking Pre-Covid here.

Trump succeeded in forcing most other nations to comply with his sanctions - by threatening to lock offenders out of the international system of payments - conducted in USdollars the "Sole" world reserve currency

The nations of the world were forced to comply with Trump's edict - hence the use of the term "Nuclear Option" . Yes - we "Forced" Compliance on our friends and allies - and our enemies for that matter. LOOK LOOK - "Trump is Winning".

That is not what Winning looks like my friend.. that is what Losing looks like. We used to just need whisper our desires into the ears of other nations and they would come running to comply - we were the only economic game in town back in the day - and everybody wanted to play. This is no longer our position on the board - We are still and economic power but there are numerous others.

The nations of the world went wild - using the strongest possible language - "You are Messing with our Sovereignty" - not in private but, on the international stage.

Every time we now turn around - "FU" payback time.

The EU has an economy the same size as ours - as does China - put India with a few others and that is equivalent. If you want to take on another one of these trading blocks .. you better have your ducks in a row = "Have your own Block". Surely you understand this. Sanctions - Trade actions - work well when we have some of the other major players on our side ..

What you don't want - is to go it alone. Bad time to wage economic war with the world -at the same time as having a Trade and economic war with China.

Imagine if you were a purchaser - overseeing international bid - and on of the nations bidding was the nation who was "Messing with your Nation's sovereignty" bottom of the pile ?

Italy - Belt and Road Initiative - despite huge US protest - FU
Germany - NordStream 2 - amid threats and US protests up the Yang - FU
EU - Huawei - 5G - FU
India - S-400 same with Turkey - FU

and that is just the start of the list- note our recent bid to restore Iran Sanctions at the UN - all of our European allies France, Germany - and even Britain - going against us. Oh .. but Dominican Republic was on our side - there is a Strong Economic ally.

This is not what winning looks like - this is what "LOSING" looks like.

 

The very worst people on earth are endorsing Biden? I didn't know my former boss - The Worst Principal On The Planet - was endorsing him!

Hey, have we gotten any Hollywood Half-Wits on record saying they'll leave the US if Trump wins in 2020? Kinda like what they said in 2016? I think Lena Dunham alone was responsible for 100K extra votes for Trump right there!

 

~ We are well aware of what "losing" looks like. The USA has been losing for the past 40 years. The USA is largely responsible for China's success. Our Capitol Hill gang practically handed it to them. That is one big reason Trump is president and likely why he will be reelected.

 

Clearly some folks are not aware that we have been losing big time under Trump.

You are correct that we have been losing for the past 40 years - much of the credit for this goes to Reagan.

None of this however is a "Bid Reason" why Trump will sway voters - as the ave voter is completely ignorant of these things.

 

~ But today the average American knows China is responsible for the Wuhan virus. China is now on the average voter's radar.

 

well I guess it depends on definition of worst, I would was the worst support Trump

 

China mishandled the virus similar to the way Trump mishandled the virus early on

both leaders tried to play it down, 15 going on zero

 

Biden reminds me of LBJ - promising in the election to never get us into Vietnam - and then after the election sending 500,000 to Vietnam.

 

But Trump does not back them. He has denounced them. ITMT, the Left on Marxist inspired/supporting BLM and ANTIFA? At most, recently, after supporting them, washing black people's feet and more, Biden recently said something mealey mouthed and generic without naming them.
EDIT: Guess he's just a coward

 

Right - but how does that translate to a vote for Trump ?

 

~ Democrats blame Trump - not China. Over 40% of Americans want China held responsible. Democrats are silent on this.

 

Of course 40% of Americans want China Held responsible - and that is what we have done .. so what - this is one of a gazillion different issues ... and just because someone wants china held responsible does not mean they will vote for Trump. They also may want abortion legal - or ... or ... or.

I don't see this translating into votes for Trump --- what ever percent of the 40% that are red - are already voting Trump ... as for the rest .. don't see this swaying the middle or the left.

 

~ China has not paid one cent in reparations to any country that is suffering from Wuhan virus. Democrats have not addressed this issue and will do nothing to seek damages from China.

 

So the real version of what folks pretend Trump is... is a Biden supporter?

Who'da thunk??

 

Right - and they never will - nor will we pay reparations for what we did in Syria -

Either way - this is not swaying any on the left or in the middle towards Carrot Top ... "any" meaning any of significance ..

Trump should be challenging the Left's Environmental position - this is one very weak link. Blue has gone so far off the farm that Michael More is way right of them.. ... ding ... ding ..ding .. red lights and alarm bells should be ringing on the left and green ones on the right ... take this land .. take this position .. its open... take the shot.

He is challenging some other important positions such as the Snowden Pardon - while this does not fool me - its pure politicking to the anti Establishment movement .. it will sway some. .. but good on Carrot top for that one in any case .. credit where due .. "AND HE Knows it" cause thats what he is good at.

what else ... oh Yeah .. Blue is now the new Neocon ... and Trump has hit them a few times on this. following on a fairly not bad track record of not getting involved in enganglements. .. pretty quiet in general -- all tho at a higher level he is maintaining the status quo.. but ... so what .. Red wasn't the party running around with "anti war" stamped on its forehead like Blue .. been the neocons of late... Not no more ...

Was the enviro thingy that broke this camels back. .. would not want an objective person looking to closely at anything related to Trump and China .. as some of his major weaknesses lie down that path... We are not winning that battle .. we are getting our backsides handed to us..

the Left has glossed on this but not really picked it up - interestingly - some Establishment self censorship going on perhaps.

but yup ... Blue is now the "Anti Environment" Party - whats not to dislike ? with one important pin left standing

Starts with an H. 3.5 Trillion was the total spend in 2017.

Obamacare was lipstick on a pig - did nothing to address the systemic issues responsible for that spend ... and with that .. I leave you this link

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-conservative-case-for-universal-healthcare/

 

~ Unless Democrats address this issue I think it will sway people impacted by the virus towards Carrot Top. Remember China owes the USA more than the U.S. owes China. There are billions worth of China owned assets in America that could be seized. Pompeo is supposedly working on evidence to make a case holding China responsible. I do not expect Democrats to move on this subject - especially with Beijing Biden as a candidate .
We shall see ...

 

No one cares about China - in any great number - to a degree more than other issues.

Average Blue voter mentality ... "China - Gay Marriage" Which issue do you think matters more to "Average Dem" ?
Now a different issue "China - Abortion" .. some number of people
Now a different issue "China - Healthcare" - a bunch more.

YOu are not turning these people Red - on the basis of China == there are too many other issues that they value way more.

How about "China - Environment" ? Forget it .. this is a none issue to most voters .. not a "straw that broke camels back" moment.

It may matter much to you .. .but you - are not "Them" .. and they don't think like you.. ONLY YOU - thinks like you. everyone else is slightly different - and those that agree with you on China - are already voting Red.

In my opinion - it is a bogus issue... with narratives on both sides being full of BS.

 

~ And neither are you .

 

Right .. .which is why I give the various rational that they will be voting on. - which is neither yours not mine - and it sure ain't China - over the group we are discussing.

 

If Trump had a D by his name you'd vote for him.

The "pivot to Asia" was launched by Obama and it has led to the Doomsday Clock being moved to 100 seconds to midnight. The risk of nuclear war is at its highest since the Cuban missile crisis and World War II. You are not immune to nuclear fire. Your lust for war with China is not rational. Don't be chump for imperialism.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/risk-of-nuclear-war-now-highest-since-ww2.572328/

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/dire-warning-us-china-war-within-3-months.576564/

 

BLM and Antifa dont even know what socialism is and neither do you. Marxists seek working class solidarity. BLM and Antifa want the opposite. Identitarian liberals calls us "class reductionists." We don't get along.

 

I'm not a Democrat and I've never liked Trump, so no, telling me who I'd vote for just makes me stop reading. Good luck, whatever you said.