CDC admits to vast over count of deaths

If they aren't catching it they can't spread it.

 

Nd in the other country also not ... but what about social contact? No American kid went to Grandma for lunch after school when parents are both at work? No american kid visits regularly the grandma / grandpa?

And that there is no evidence means nothing ... because until it is not monitored you will not have any numbers and so you have neither an evidence for it, nor against it!

And again ... no one ever denied that kids suffer far lesser from COVID-19 itself ...

 

Lol ... are you kidding now?

That kids didn't suffer much from Corona does not mean that they didn't get lesser being infected with Corona! Such a claim kids get lesser Corona is simply bullcrap and nothing else!

 

So you have a source saying other wise? Study of 800 college students in Australia found less than 20 cases and no spread beyond that. Study of asymptomatic patients in Switzerland found no covid virus associated with normal breathing over a thirty minute period.

 

So you have any serious source about that kids are lesser being infected with Corona as adults?

Again ... children under the age of 18 are less likely to experience the typical symptoms of infection, including fever, cough and difficulty breathing, and are also less likely to need hospitalization and less likely to die of COVID-19. But this does not mean that they are not being infected with the virus AND can then inect other people.

FACTS:

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/children-and-school-settings-covid-19-transmission

Quotation...

Key messages

• A small proportion (<5%) of overall COVID-19 cases reported in the EU/EEA and the UK are among children (those aged 18 years and under). When diagnosed with COVID-19, children are much less likely to be hospitalised or have fatal outcomes than adults.
• Children are more likely to have a mild or asymptomatic infection, meaning that the infection may go undetected or undiagnosed.
• When symptomatic, children shed virus in similar quantities to adults and can infect others in a similar way to adults. It is unknown how infectious asymptomatic children are.
• While very few significant outbreaks of COVID-19 in schools have been documented, they do occur, and may be difficult to detect due to the relative lack of symptoms in children.
• ....

When someone does not show symptoms of COVID-19, is the person then being tested? Only at few exceptionial cases ... and so when no test, how will you know if having the virus or not if not becoming sick etc., eh?

 

Again results from the Swiss study found no covid in the breath of asymptomatic patients. That means asymptomatic folk almost certainly don't spread it.

 

Of which - according to the CDC - only 6% died from the WuFlu alone.

Since you're keeping count, that comes to 11,160 dead.

I thought I'd do the math and see how that figures into our total population of 328.2 million people and the number came to:

.000034

While we're being morbid, let's compare that to some other illnesses:

Now, the CDC's stats on pneumonia:

Now, back to your post:

Obviously, it doesn't mean that the WuFlu killed you, either.

What we do know is that some people have an interest in inflating the death toll attributed to Covid-19.

Little wonder that Democrats such as the Governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi have been caught violating their own mandates and advice.

And you have no way of knowing or proving that.

Which is a lie, because the Science and the Numbers say otherwise.

The Science and the Facts matter, too - at least to some people.

So does having a calm, thoughtful and honest discussion about this issue, and statements like this aren't helpful:

Of course, you and I had this discussion months ago, and I see it's left absolutely no impression on you. I said it before and I'll repeat it again: The people who have nothing to contribute to the national discussion/debate but dishonest, hysterical, inflammatory and slanderous rhetoric are part of the problem, not the solution.

Oh, and full disclosure: I'm over 50 years old, I haven't caught the virus and it's highly unlikely I ever will, and the people lighting their hair on fire and trying to burn the entire country to the ground - many solely for political gain - aren't going to change that.

 

First disease in the history of the world in which we tried to quarantine everyone.

 

Plandemic

 

Come on, you are better than posting and approving of this kind of garbage. If a video starts with "all Dems in congress should be locked up...", any normal person should stop watching, and so should you.

 

And how many were tested at how many different places, is this told too? ... is, for example, an important point regarding the significance of a study!

 

I wonder, then, how it spreads like wildfire among college populations? What you state about lack of asymptomatic transmission is just your opinion, not supported by scientific evidence. In fact, asymptomatic transmission is the ONLY reason we have a pandemic. If it were as simple as having people stay home as soon as they experience the first symptoms, covid-19 would have been long eradicated.

 

94% of the deaths had 2 or more comorbidities as you say.... Some could be minor some could be things like terminal cancer.. You can not say Covid 19 killed 180k people because its simply not true. In many cases they are assuming it played a factor. You dont assume in science...

Insults dont help your cause nor your knowledge of what science is.

 

Nice attempt.... The bullet caused the wound that lead to the bleeding...

In the case of Covid its not nearly that simple..

 

If we've learned anything from this experience it's how not to respond to a pandemic.

For example, here in Virginia, a response tailored to local conditions would have been the most effective and caused the least damage, but the politician residing in the Governor's Mansion went for the blanket approach that gave no consideration to local conditions and did the most damage possible.

Now, gazing at what his scorched earth policy has done to the Commonwealth, he's finally seen the light and started to respond the way he should have responded from the start. However, he's still not allowing many localities who could be further along in their recovery phases to advance accordingly, so in that respect he's still repeating the unnecessarily harmful mistakes he's made.

 

You are right in a way as it lowers the immune system.

Nice to see anything counter to your ideas is seen as dangerous to you... People usually fear the unknown which seems to be the case here.

 

To be fair we are all going to die. What this shows is the media spewing that Covid-19 killed 180k people is simply not true.

 

When have we shut down the economy over the Flu?

 

You are a scientist and you spew such crap?

One person being positive does not mean that person is even contagious never mind 10 people having weak immune systems to one catch Covid-19 and then two to be contagious.

We have well over 300 million people in this country if your logic was true our numbers would be sky high.

 

Are you suggesting there is a 100% mortality rate for those who have a condition or two of the ones you listed i would like to see the evidence of that..

 

Testing positive does not mean you have symptoms of nor does it mean you are contagious.....

 

It certainly didnt in Australia. They have last I checked 23 cases all in one Sorority at OK state and a couple of football players in 40000 students. That's not my definition of a wildfire.
Seems likely they got it at home and brought it back with them.

 

And most likely none of them will need to seek a physician.

 

Conversely, it cannot be said that these people would have died anyway, regardless of whether they had been infected with COVID-19 and fell ill with it or not. This idiotic assertion is unfortunately heard and read often enough too...

COVID-19 is of course not Ebola, which is known to be not only extremely infectious, but also extremely deadly. But tell me another infectious disease, which infected so many people in 8 months and costs so many deaths directly or in connection with other diseases.
The last one in the USA and on most of the planet was the so-called "Spanish flu" (even if "American flu" is actually correct) and even then it was mostly not the flu alone. Most of the time, other diseases were also one thing, but even more problems due to malnutrition, as well as a lack of hygiene due to the First World War and its effects etc.

In summary, it can be said that there are almost always other diseases or influencing circumstances in such pandemics as now. A separation is just not really possible ... and in my eyes also irrelevant. Someone died, had Corona and is (additionally) sick with Corona ... so the person is a victim of the pandemic.

Well ... and would the bleeding or organ damage caused by the gunshot wound also be fatal if the person had not also had asthma when breathing stopped, etc.?

 

Name the year millions of people were tested for Influenza....( In the US alone)

There is a reason why the estimates per years have a wide range in those years themselves.

Take something like the Sturgis rally... 365k people showed up during that week.... Media wants to demonize it.. End of the world type stuff here!!!!

They have "linked" what 100 cases to it? Not deaths... Not serious symptoms... 100 cases out of 365k people.. Now you think the locals would be dying left and right right?

Crickets.....