CDC admits to vast over count of deaths

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  1. Daniel Light

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    And some will become super-spreaders, some will become Long Haulers (people who survive, but suffer long term damage to immune system and organs, and some will die.

    It’s all fun and games with numbers until you or a loved one get hit with virus.
     
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    CDC did statistics the old way, then a new way for Wuhan virus for a short while, and now back to the old way.

    Pandemic over.
     
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    Based on what?

    Again see Sturgis.....365k people over a week.... 100 cases "linked" to it... Where is your evidence of "super spreaders"...
     
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    Communicable disease deaths this year
    The numbers generated just two minutes ago.
    But not as newsworthy or dramatic as Covid, I guess. Way less sexy.
     
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    @Mandelus
    The bottom line is that something is going to kill you. You can spend your life hiding from a ubiquitous bundle of nucleic acid which is going to find you anyway and fortunately has only a tiny tiny chance of killing your children (very unlike the 1918 pandemic) or you can live your very short life in joy and courage. The latter is certainly in better taste and less miserable. It is up to you but please don’t impose your fears on others through the machinery of the state.
     
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    Funny how the LW MSM is so concerned with the Sturgis rally but is utterly unconcerned with the protests-riots their comrades have been conducting over the past 3 months where there's been no regard for social distancing...

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    Not seein' a lot of masks, either...

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    BLM protests are VIOLENCE!
     
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    Listen I'm trying to help you out by letting you know you fell for fake news. This article grossly misrepresented the facts and twisted the inclusion of comorbidities, a common medical practice used to evaluate every disease and death type, to suggest in the most egreriously ignorant and idiotic way that we have 96% fewer COVID deaths. Its utter insanity. You fell for fake news, a lot of people fell for fake news. Snap out of it! This is a helping hand not a put-down.

    I don't know if its too late at this point but everyone better be real damned concerned about a 'silent minority' of right-wingers who are planning to cast votes for Democrats because of the way the GOP is outright refusing, with unrivaled belligerency, to deal with this pandemic. The GOP is flat out ignoring that a key issue in battleground districts/states is COVID. The right just might be handing over the country because of this moronic stance. Think on that for a moment.
     
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    First.. Attempt to speak without the need to dehumanize those you are speaking to..

    When you can attempt to do that try replying to me again. What the article goes over is how many people Covid-19 killed directly and that number is low.. You can understand that or you can just insult people to try to make yourself feel better.. Up to you.
     
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    Ah, you use Australia as a shining example when they actually did the right things to keep covid under control. In the US, however, the last I heard was that 20,000 students were infected within the first 1-2 weeks of classes. Some universities already went online again, because of the rapid spread, for example UNC. Others, like Syracuse, had to suspend students because they were caught partying with large groups. Now what does that tell you? US students being irresponsible? My guess is that they have listened to the GOP snake oil that young kids are basically immune. So, they party without worries and then pass the virus on to professors, like myself, and staff. None of that would happen without asymptomatic transmission.

    That's why people who believe in the cra% posted in this thread are so dangerous. By downplaying covid at every opportunity, they are a direct cause of the irresponsible behavior of so many, which prevent us from getting this under control and the economy of the country back to full speed.
     
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    What about it?
     
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    ONLY the media?
     
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    The GOP 2020 motto: We are all going to die anyway. Winning!
     
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    Work on your logic. It was pretty faulty there.

    I am not suggesting anything.

    I'm SAYING that those 190,000 people who died because they caught Covid would be alive today had they NOT caught it
     
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    Cases in South Dakota have more than tripled since the beginning of Sturgis...and most of those cyclists went ELSEWHERE to spread it...
     
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    SO since "we're all gonna die"...murder should not be a crime...cause hey...the victim was gonna die anyway....sometime
     
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    and if the Sun did not rise in the morning those people would not be alive ... SO What ? Thanks for the lovely tid bit of information but - So What - how does this help us move forward ?
     
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    It is always reported as "Covid-19 deaths". Google: "Covid-19 deaths".
    21,000,000 hits. IOW, typical MSM Fake News Hype.
     
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    I still like the guy who died in a car accident in Miami death certificate claiming it was Covid. I hear the the hospital gets ot more government money for doing claiming it that way.
     
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    Nah man, that's the conclusion it's author came to - and its wrong. Its 100% fake news. Did you wonder why no other outlet is carrying this? Do you happen to know what the "Center for Research on Globalization" is? Its fkin Alex Jones with a fancy name dude haha. They peddle some of the most absurd conspiracy theories mankind has cooked up. I'm telling you man, straight up, this is FAKE NEWS!

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-research/
     
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    And how man college students are there? A few tens if millions
     
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    It's all about the $$$.
     
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    Even the CDC admits to miscalculations but the percent is less than that site says which is more like 2% of Virus deaths were not actual virus deaths. Mainly, because all deaths have been dramatically reduced during coronavirus. People stop dying from other reasons just of coronavirus does impact the numbers. And, hospitals get a stipend from the government ($13k in my state) every time they put down that they had to treat a coronavirus patient and even more for a death. Hence, that is probably why that car accident guy was ruled a corona death or the lady who was never tested had a hospital call her with a positive test or the clinic that had thousands of 100% positive tests in a row when the national average is 13%. There is bound to be corruption that even the CDC cannot verify until months later. I am sure the number of false cases and deaths rise as well. I bet every flu death was reported as Corona.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
     
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    Hey, if the murder victim was 65 years old and had diabetes, he probably would have died anyway in 5-10 years. That should give a nice reduction in the prison sentence, because not as much harm done as killing a toddler.

    These people are beyond help in their reasoning to make Trump look better.
     
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    And I thought this was the Democratic rhetoric. Just put 65 and older corona patients into nursing homes to infect the rest like the other leftist state governors ahve done. Especially, being 80% of deaths are over 65 years old. The rest of us who get it probably never even knew we had it.
     
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    2% is a more reasonable figure that would account for the occasional misdiagnosis or general tracking error.
     

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